Radio Data System (RDS)

It would be good if all of the stations using RDS displayed current weather information and forecasts for the next 24 hours.

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Fixed, for this time. It will break again. Was a weekly occurrence on weekends.

And it may potentially spark more memes. :winking_face_with_tongue:

Currently no RDS RT on ABC Classic 93.9 Hobart.
How long has this been the case for?

Noted last night that 100.7 Life FM Renmark, SA has reinstated their RDS PS as: Life FM.
But still have their poorly chosen PI of FFFF.

Also noted on the Bunbury, WA webserver that there’s a new URDS MapViewer plugin that’s very useful for RDS logging, capturing RDS data etc. :clap: Would be great if more of the Aussie webserver hosts could also consider adding that plugin if space allows in respective menus etc.

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Doing a road trip to the South West NSW (currently in Cowra).

Can’t get info the RDS worksheet but i think this one from Bathurst might be new? Wasn’t on last October when i last passed through.

94.7 Orange relay also has RDS too.

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It certainly is new! Nothing wrong with your memory :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I’ll add it to the list soon. Thank you. :clap:
I guessing the rest of the RT says: …and Orange.

Some enquiries/notes my end;

  1. Is 107.5FM Orange still broadcasting with RDS with a PI code of: 0000 ?
  2. Also if possible is it possible to capture any extended RDS data for 99.3 BRock ? Also the last RT info we have for them is:
    B-Rock FM – Rock of the West
    (Song Title & Artist Info)
  3. It’s possible more of the Sky Sports Radio outlets now have RT. Bathurst does, Orange doesn’t. Not sure about Parkes (RT or not?)
  4. If in Young any extended RDS data for 2YYY or updates might be good.
  5. 2AAA last reported still no RDS

What’s your return journey leg likely to be? Further north or south?
Safe travels.

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Correct!

Yes

My TEF still won’t decode B-Rock properly, this happened last time too. Works fine on the car radio though

I’ll check those tomorrow when i go back up to the local Bellevue Hill lookout. Can confirm Bathurst does. Still no RDS at all at Lithgow.

Yes, south, heading to Wagga tomorrow, will check 2AAA then including Junee, and then to Canberra on Thursday via Tumut.

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Good news re 2AAA Wagga Wagga, now has valid PI code and even has AF on all three TXs (Wagga, Wagga South and Junee). 99.5 1RPH Junee relay also has RDS and AF too.
Caps

And @ozbark, SKY Parkes 99.9 with RT, sorry for image quality.

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Awesome notes - thanks. :clap: :slightly_smiling_face: A very productive trip so far re RDS observations.
Great to finally have 2AAA back with RDS again & the new functional PI code. :+1:
2AAA do also have relay transmitters on 99.1 for both Coolamon & Gundagai.
I’m guessing if the 99.1 frequency didn’t appear in either the 107.1 or 97.9 RDS AF’s that
probably RDS not yet (if ever was?) activated for those 99.1 outlet transmitters. :thinking:

BTW is the RDS RT the same for both 1RPH 89.5 Wagga & 99.5 Junee?
Previously the RDS RT for Wagga was (is?):
89.5 FM - RADIO 1RPH - Wagga’s Radio Reading Service
And the PS was: 1RPH____

It looks like the PS for 99.5 1RPH Junee is: <2spaces>1RPH<2spaces>

Perfect. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thanks!

89.5 and 99.5 both look to be the same.

Re 2AAA, no, 99.1 not listed in any AF, will check Gundagai on the way to Canberra this morning.

Extended 2AAA caps for the three I’ve seen so far. Only 107.1 listed as AF, 107.1 itself not listing any AF

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In Canberra now, went down to Tuggeranong and looks like the 95.9 Triple J relay has unintentional RDS, a bit like Sunshine Coast?

As even with a good signal, RDS bar is red, car radio won’t detect it. 99.1 Classic relay has no RDS at all.

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Noted that 89.7 4TAB in Beaudesert have made some further RDS changes.
PTYN (Grp 10A) has been dropped & replaced with ECC F0 (Grp 1A), this brings
up the Aussie flag on the Qld TEF webservers. :slightly_smiling_face:
A Decoder ID [DI] of 8, for Dynamic PTY noted too.
This appears to match the DI & Grp code RDS data for 103.5 4TAB Mackay noted early in the year.

ECC of F0 has been dropped on some of the east coast capital SCA stations or perhaps(?)
more accurately by the TMC traffic providers?
The RT+ for iTunes tagging may have been dropped by SCA or Traffic providers too. :thinking:
Some DI changes noted too.

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PI: 295A
PS: 95.5 / TM FM
PTY: Varied
RT: {Last Played Song}
AF: Lists a whole bunch of stations, not sure I’d trust it yet

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101FM Logan RDS back, Don’t know if thats been reported already but went listening this afternoon and it was there

Here’s the latest vehicle manufacturer list for radio tuners that either do or don’t decode FM Radio RDS based on poorly selected broadcaster RDS PI Codes.

Although a lot more vehicle manufacturers could be added to the list,
it’s pretty clear there’s a problem displaying RDS Info for FM radio stations
using a PI code of: 0000 (This is per design for non compliant PI codes per RDS International Standards). Or to describe it another way it’s not a poor reflection on the vehicle manufacturer if it does or doesn’t display RDS info with a non compliant RDS PI code, but it does provide proof to radio station’s that in order to be assured of displaying a radio station’s RDS across the largest number of vehicle tuners possible, the radio station technicians & engineers do need to be very careful with their choice of RDS PI codes.

Known FM radio stations using a badly selected (default) PI code of 0000 are:
93.9 2MNO Cooma, NSW
88.0 Forever Classics 70’s - Goulburn, NSW
94.9 2HVR Ravensworth Mine, NSW
107.5 2OCB Orange, NSW
94.5 2FBI Sydney, NSW
103.9 3SEY Seymour, Vic.

I’m keen to populate the list with more vehicles manufactured over the past 10 years.
If you wish to contribute & stay relatively anonymous you are welcome to private message me.

I’m also wanting to gather more vehicle data for the other problem RDS PI codes of FFFF & 0xxx (where X = any Hex digit)

Also on the lookout, to add to our list, is any new vehicle that can decode RDS2 & Long PS.
I did recently attempt 88.9 Radio Skid Row’s LPS decode in a couple of vehicles, but I was located too far away for reliable RDS decoding.

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My Mazda 6 doesn’t display LPS

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For some reason my car (Pajero Sport 2017) also doesn’t display RDS PS on 3RRR and 3MBS, do you have any idea what would cause this?

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Interesting. Is it displaying other RDS data like Radio Text (RT) or PTY for 3RRR & 3MBS?
Are you having any other RDS issues with any other Melbourne FM stations, eg the lower powered ones or 3PBS. I need to try & narrow in on problem.

eg 3MBS RT: ‘3MBS 103.5 FM Melbourne’
eg 3RRR RT: ‘Triple R - 102.7FM, 3RRR Digital, rrr.org.au & RRR Apps’

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Hi, sorry I meant 3PBS instead of 3RRR. Both 3MBS and 3PBS don’t display any PS but display RT completely fine. I haven’t seen this problem happen on any other stations.



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