Radio Data System (RDS)

Thanks Josh. :sunglasses:

The RDS List has been updated with the very latest Star FM data including the newly edited logos, which were a great bother to edit in this instance for some reason, but we got there.

2 Likes

A few recent observations:
96.3 Coast FM (2CCC) have changed their PI code from 296C to 296A
104.5 Star FM has CT, but almost 1min fast
93.3 FM Central Coast has CT & itā€™s accurate.

UPDATE: Have added the logo & website link for 87.8 AC878FM Fairfield, NSW (Sydney) to our RDS List. Thanks to @tvcl

4 Likes

2GLFā€™s RDS is on again:

3 Likes

Off again. Surely has to be a standby tx? :thinking:

:laughing: two seconds after posting the text above, the audio went silent & the ā€˜echoā€™ of two of the same audio streams (one slightly delayed) programming resumed with RDS active again. This is what I experienced last week.

4 Likes

Funny thing, I either did that ages ago & wouldā€™ve posted it here, but not updated the RDS document or I donā€™t remember changing it so donā€™t know how or when it changed, lol

If I did change it from 6C to 6A it wouldā€™ve been for good reason Iā€™m not in a position to look at the moment but is there possibility another station within reasonable distance away has a PI code ending in 9C?

Maybe I changed it the other way, the computer our RDS encoder was on had a catastrophic failure a while back & was replaced so maybe thatā€™s actually the old backup settings that we reinstalled on the new encoder & I missed that ID changed the PI code previously & used a too old backup file for restoring?

Now Iā€™m going to have to find time over the weekend & figure out what code Iā€™m supposed to be using & why I picked it.

3 Likes

Last time I reviewed/verified the 296C PI code was Dec 2023 for 2CCC.

I donā€™t think thereā€™s a problem with either 296A or 296C.

206C is used up in Lismore & Gold Coast for 2PNN/4PNN - that should have been fine.

206A is used for 105.5 Triple M Coffs Harbour, that should be fine too.

All checked with Worksheet 14 on the RDS List. :slight_smile:

3 Likes

Iā€™ve just looked back through some of our PM discussions & found this back in the middle of 2023, so yes it looks like 6A was an old code & I changed it to 6C, so the encoder backup we used when we installed the new encoder PC was too old & has the wrong info, so now Iā€™ll have to go through everything & make sure itā€™s correct to what we want or change it.

Quote from message, middle of 2023.
Also having looked through the PI codes, I may actually change Coast FM to 296C as thereā€™s no other station with that code (to our knowledge). Thereā€™s other stations with the current PI code of 296A, even though they are far enough away not to be a problem.

2 Likes

All good. Yes please let us know if you make any future changes to PI code.

2 Likes

94.9 Rhema Central Coast has joined the likes of 100.3 4BAY to add sponsor info to their RDS RT field.
Their RT uses this format: [Sponsorā€™s Name] - Station Sponsor
It also appears within their RT+ fields.

4 Likes

106.9 VOX FM have recently implemented RT & PTY.
(Pics to come later)

2 Likes

Okay, Iā€™ve gone through the MS RDS document, checked PI codes used, not used, close & far away & Iā€™ve also gone through all the Coast FM Central Coast RDS Encoder settings & have made sure everything is as wanted & accurate after the wrong encoder backup was used to restore after the failed encoder was replaced & I have changed the PI code to 296E, which hopefully it should stay at now.
If you want to update the RDS worksheets & verify all other RDS settings off air for Coast FM 96.3 Central Coast, you can do it now, there shouldnā€™t be any further changes unless you find some error in something, I still have RDS2 Station logo active, but no long PS.

3 Likes

Done :+1: :sunglasses:
Thanks. Verified the PI code. I would need a good tropo opening to confirm other settings.

BTW are you aware of anyone seeing the Coast FM logo on their vehicle tuners/receivers to date?
I havenā€™t as yet seen any vehicles marketing their vehicles with RDS2, but hopefully not too far away.

3 Likes

No oneā€™s said anything to me, but if thereā€™s people around who can see the Breeze/Rebel RDS 2 Station logos, Iā€™m sure the Central Coast has some of the same cars/radio receivers around, whether those who have them listen to Coast FM I donā€™t know?

2 Likes

When did Triple M stop doing the score updates on their RDS during football matches? I remember them making a big deal of it when it started.

I was driving while tonightā€™s GWS/Lions final was on, flipped Triple M on for a moment to try and find out the scores, and first time I got an ad break, second time there was just waffle, and then they just didnā€™t mention the scoreline after about 2 minutes of listening, so I gave up.

The scrolling text was just the ā€˜Triple M Rocks Footballā€™ kind of promo stuffā€¦

2 Likes

I think it was only ever there briefly for NRL games.

Iā€™m guessing they decided they couldnā€™t bother to keep doing it because it required too much manual effort.

2 Likes

Alive 90.5 Sydney has made a couple of changes to their RDS with RT restored with a new static msg as: www.alive905.com.au & some familiar Group codes, an improvement on what it was some days ago, but still some way to go. The TA flag still on.

3 Likes

The RDS on 87.8 has changed:

4 Likes

@ozbark Itā€™s back again and still doesnā€™t decode on my car radio. Any ideas why?

3 Likes

Thanks for the heads up @tvcl on its return to air.

I think the reason it is not displaying on your car radioā€™s PS display is due to the dreaded use of NUL characters instead of SPACE characters after the station callsign to fill in the extra unused 4 characters after their callsign. Google ASCII table.

eg 2GLF NUL NUL NUL NUL
should be: 2GLF SP SP SP SP
Media Spy doesnā€™t allow me to use arrow keys to show special characters for the above two lines

If you open up the Group Analyzer, open up the Group Content Full TAB & you will see the many 00 DEC codes instead of what should be 32 DEC codes for the space character.

Drop them a email tomorrow. Their tech probably isnā€™t too experienced with RDS.

3 Likes

Off again / on again RDS on 96.5 FM Harvey WA. On at the moment with what looks like help from the tech that configured Bunbury 103.7 FM RDS.

New Dynamic PS: HVCR // 96.5FM
New PI: 6220
New PTY: Easy Listening
New Groups: 0A and 2A
RT: Artist - Title
Sponsor message tags (eg: Binningup Fishing Club - Spot 3)
National Radio News

Looks good to me :+1:

3 Likes