You seem all up in other people’s business. Who are you to dictate to others how they identify or what they do with their bodies? It’s actually kind of interesting as they say sometimes the biggest homophobes and transphobes are actually in denial about their own desires. Food for thought perhaps.
In my view it’s live and let live. The only area I find problematic is trans women competing in elite sport. It really is unfair to biological women. Biological men have an undeniable genetic advantage and sad to say, shouldn’t be competing in elite women’s sport.
Other than that, live and let live. Who cares.
Mind your own business.
This piece was more on biological sex than gender, but still a shining example of anti-trans and anti-gender politicians not having a clue what they’re talking about.
The Congresswoman summed up the reality simpler and more eloquently than most I’ve heard. No shouting, no insults, just the calm reality.
Toxic Masculinity is starting to re-emerge through the most unlikely of cohorts, all because some boys have their whinging nappies on and clearly afraid of a bit of fairness and burn up like dracula in the sun when they see gender equality in the world.
Yes, valid point. But the way I see it is society is starting to (and this is just my opinion) swing the other way. Yes, gender equality is a great thing to have, but at what point are we equal?
Not to sound like Paul on Sky News - I’ll try my best not to - but why do institutions, especially high schools from what I can gather, make a big deal about supporting and empowering women through days like International Women’s Day (and similar for race and sexuality but that’s a whole other debate for a whole other thread). But remain quiet about days such as International Men’s Day? This is what gets me. Just to seem politically correct companies may discriminate (probably on accident) against males and white people by ignoring or tarnishing days celebrating them.
Just a thought that I’ve always found really interesting given the state of the world. So not saying I’m justifying men and boys complaining about fairness in any way, of course fairness is needed, I’m saying is it warranted if other things celebrating them are ignored almost?
Happy to have a civil discussion and debate on this particular topic
Despite a lot having changed in a relatively short time, there’s still much that can — and should — be done to improve how society treats women. International Women’s Day should serve as much as a reminder of the work still ahead as it is a day for ‘supporting and empowering.’ There is still a decent cohort of people who think that the other 364 days of the year are in effect IMD.
PS for those who didn’t know, International Men’s Day is November 19th, same day as International Toilet Day
The rise of toxic masculinity in recent years (and the amount of traction that awful people like Andrew Tate have been able to find with young men in particular) has been a very dangerous and alarming development.
However, I would also argue that some of the tropes and stereotypes that are labelled against men in sections of the feminist movement these days can be quite unhelpful.
When good men are made to feel unwelcome and face hostility for the simple fact that they are male (the bear analogy is a good example for instance- I understand the reasoning behind it, but it plays into the harmful stereotype that all men are inherently untrustworthy)- then it is not that surprising to me that many men are (sadly) increasingly falling for the rhetoric expressed by the likes of Tate.
Absolutely, let’s not forget the largest killer of men under 40 is suicide. We should be doing everything we can to support and celebrate men, just like women to avoid them being targeted by bad actors like Tate and co.
In simple terms, because women in general have been subjected to inferior treatment and sexist stereotyping since the beginning of time. Be it lack of work opportunities, being beaten at the behest of their male partners etc. Even though we’ve made progress, there are still many things that women are subjected to that are unfair compared to men (e.g. wages, opportunities in life, choices etc.) and that’s why things need to change for the better.
Men, well if they have a problem with that it suggests to me that those same people would prefer to go back to the days when women can be raped and beaten at the will of their partners/male colleagues and only do what ‘housewives need to understand as they do the ironing’ (to quote Tony Abbott). That sort of attitude is what the likes of Tate and Rogan holds and it should be held to account. The only way the world moves forward is when men can also accept that women should be afforded the same opportunities and choices as them, not confined to some outdated stereotype of the Stone Age.
White men under 45 (or any age for that matter) have never needed a leg up, society has long been (and largely continues to be) tailored to cater to them.
No, its caused by insecure dickheads (like Tate) who think that we should still live in the stone age because they make the mistake of thinking that equality is somehow oppressive
And why do we need to celebrate them? They already have a dominant hold on society in every aspect so, do we celebrate a lot of them for perpetuating sexist remarks and stereotypes of women or do we celebrate some of them for punching and violently assaulting women as if it’s a normal day at the office?
This is the bit here. Yes - women celebration is a great thing and advocate it’s need, however in places like schools where kids are developing and growing, pushing international women’s day with things like morning teas, speaking on assemblies (and subsequently posting it to the schools social media) while downplaying the other demographic of kids whos opinions and takes on this are still being formed is what gets me. Why show them equality when not celebrating everyone equally.
Yes, Tate & Co. rhetoric is not good, but society leaving out celebrating men for being them will not help combat Tate at all, as well as the suicide rare for men under 40 as @TVHead mentioned above
Yes, they do - as they should. However I can’t quite see your point here as Anzac Day has always been and always will be a day that pays respect to the troops & nurses serving in wars around the world and those veterans who fought in key global conflicts.
I agree - it’s to commemorate all Australian’s, and our allies, of all backgrounds, who have served our country. Trying to bring ANZAC Day into this debate is very poor.
I think it’s important to highlight too that this cohort of boys/young men going through their adolescence now have grown up in a time where many of the historic disadvantages that women have faced (certainly in relatively progressive countries like Australia) are not as prevalent as they were say, 20-30+ years ago. The concept that women are disadvantaged is not something that necessarily accurately reflects their own lived experiences (and that is in a way a great reflection of the progress that has been made in that time).
For those of us who have grown up prior to the 2010s, it is easier for us to understand where this has come from (and why it is important) as we can remember a time when women (edit: to clarify- that is in a purely Australian context- of course the situation is different overseas) faced significant disadvantages first hand.
There’s a very delicate balance to be struck between celebrating and empowering women and ensuring that we don’t slip backwards as a society on gender equality- while also ensuring that we don’t end up disenfranchising and alienating an entire generation of young men in the process.
Doesn’t Anzac Day commemorate the lives of all who fought or died in war irrespective of whether they’re male, female, white, black, brown, yellow, gay, straight etc. etc?
