Eurovision Song Contest

I’ve completely lost track of what the singles charts actually are, or what they’re based on. TBH, I didn’t even realise they were still a thing. It all seems so vague. And songs seem to stay in the “top 10” for months. It’s all pretty sad compared to the Top 40 charts of old.

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They have multiple different charts, the traditional singles chart which is hijacked as described above, the australian only charts, but same issue, then theres a top 50 “replay” chart again covering songs streamed forever.

Then theres a new release chart for songs less than 4 months i beleive, but again these are hijacked by fake singles and still include all album tracks

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https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/eurovision-song-contest-austria-vienna-lugano-rsi-b1283451.html

The three minute film, Crossing the Bridge, is now available on YouTube.

The EBU has also released the only known footage of the competition’s first-ever winner as it marks the milestone.

Australia giving Israel 0 points from the Jury & Televote was brought up at a Senate Inquiry. It seemed like the Senator tried to insinuate that SBS rigged the online voting but was told that EBU runs the online voting. She also incorrectly said Australia ranked them 25th out of 26 when it was 22nd & 20th

Here is the clip for anyone who wants to watch

https://x.com/thebigjohnnyd/status/2059875490035568791?s=46

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Forget about incorrect rankings, is she implying that there are Australians voting for Israel?

Obviously it does not hit EBU’s barometer for it to count as a point.

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why is the Senator so worried about this, it’s not her role as an Australia public servant to be butthurt on behalf of Israel? Technically Australia would have given many other countries zero as well?

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If it was anyone but that sycophant Sarah Henderson I would’ve been surprised but I guess I shouldn’t expect anything less from someone like her.

Also why does Australia need to always vote for Israel? Just because Israel decided to give us 12 points doesn’t make it any more justified.

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I think she said something like Australia ranked Israel 25th out of 26 when they were 2nd overall etc trying to insinuate SBS was responsible etc

it’s not like we have a cozy reciprocal arrangement like Greece and Cyprus :stuck_out_tongue:

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What a waste of everyone’s time and money. Even if our politicians don’t have anything more important to worry about at the moment…

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Of course this is all ridiculous quizzing SBS on such things.

But I must admit I’m a little jaded with Eurovision after the last couple of years. Unless the EBU can do something to fix the voting the competition is at real risk of becoming irrelevant or perhaps even won’t continue in its current form. To have countries like Spain, Ireland and Netherlands boycotting is really serious, despite the EBU trying to play it down and gaslight people.

The public vote has become untenable in my opinion, and I would question the juries after this year.

Others may disagree, but unless the EBU can get their act together I think the ESC is likely to become a sideshow.

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Wow she’s just unhinged. It’s a competition not a cheerleading contest for another country. She should work for the Israeli government at the rate she’s going.

Also agree that unless the EBU does something about voting or better cut off Israel from participating until they get their act together, it’s only a downhill slope from here.

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As probably the oldest person on here and someone who has watched and listened to Eurovision for over 50 years it is only a shadow of what it originally was.

I quite enjoy the ‘campery’ of it all these days but it was a serious SONG contest. Not costumes, not scenery, not pyrotechnics or political voting or non-European entrants. Just good singers and good songs, well mostly good songs. :slightly_smiling_face:

It was a much better competition too when it was decided by just the juries. They need to sort out the voting and especially the large public vote for Israel every year.

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That sounds boring to me. I just can’t imagine that the contest would be anywhere near as popular as it is if the public weren’t involved in the voting. The Israel public vote in recent years is the only major anomaly (sure certain countries favor others but it has minimal impact on the overall result).

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I think the shake up of the juries this year worked well. It changed the expected outcome a bit!

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I think the exact opposite.

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Yes the Israel public vote is the main problem - but it’s a really big problem. It skews the vote for other countries massively in a way results are just not valid. Unless they can actually fix it I would prefer no public vote to be honest.

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How so? Practically nobody saw Bulgaria winning pre contest; I believe it was specifically the new rule change of having to include two jurors aged between 18 and 25 on every jury that gave it a big push and made it win the jury vote which was enough to win overall with Bulgaria winning the televote too.

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To me that explains why the winning song sounded like a Tik Tok video rather than a great song. Just my opinion. The better and more professional songs were factored into the odds. Bulgaria winning from absolutely nowhere isn’t a good thing IMO. That’s what I mean when I think the competition is in danger of being cheapened and becoming irrelevant. Not saying they shouldn’t try to attract younger viewers, but the mainstay of the Eurovision audience has never been 18 - 25yos, not ever. It’s clearly about advertising dollars but it’s a risky strategy to rely on fickle teen and early 20s audience in this day and age, especially for something like Eurovision which has never been cool with the kids.