Digital TV Technical Discussion

I assume you’re talking about the log-periodic antennas Fracarro makes, because they do make non log-periodic antennas.

I don’t have any issues with the Fracarro antennas, they’re quite good quality & a log-periodic can get better results in some circumstances, as each antenna element is a tuned length for a different frequency, so your gain curve differs from a normal Yagi.

I never used any in my time because they were hard to source locally, I couldn’t just walk into a local wholesaler & get one off the shelf, I’d have to order in.

Don’t forget that in Melbourne and Adelaide there’s still been community TV on UHF.

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Audio description seems to now be available on SBS, with a ticker shown at the start of Who Do You Think You Are?

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It works on my Samsung DVR, but I can’t see a way to select it on the Fetch box.

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From the SBS website:

May 2020 Audio Described Programming

Sunday 24 May, 2020
8.30pm, SBS VICELAND – The Fifth Element
10.10pm, SBS – Filthy Rich and Homeless (series 1). Episode 1.

Monday 25 May, 2020
3.50pm, SBS – Great British Railway Journeys (series 5). Episode 10: Nottingham to Leeds
4.25pm, SBS – Great American Railroad Journeys (series 2). Episode 6: Minneapolis to St Paul

Tuesday 26 May, 2020
4.20pm, SBS – Great American Railroad Journeys (series 2). Episode 7: Red Wing, Minnesota to Portage, Wisconsin
7.30pm, SBS – Who Do You Think You Are? Series 11 Ep 2 , Bert Newton

Wednesday 27 May, 2020
4.25pm, SBS – Great American Railroad Journeys (series 2). Episode 8: Milwaukee to Chicago
8.30pm, SBS – An Australian Hero - Keith Payne
8.30pm, SBS VICELAND – Time Bandits

Thursday 28 May, 2020
4.25pm, SBS – Great American Railroad Journeys (series 2). Episode 9: Chicago to Champaign, Illinois
9.25pm, SBS VICELAND – Future Man (series 2). Episode 7: Homicide: Life in the Mons
9.55pm, SBS VICELAND – Future Man (series 2). Episode 8: The Last Horchata
10.30pm, SBS VICELAND– The Handmaid’s Tale (series 3). Episode 9: Bear Witness

Friday 29 May, 2020
4.30pm, SBS – Great American Railroad Journeys (series 2). Episode 10: Mattoon, Illnois to Memphis, Tennessee

Saturday 30 May, 2020
8.30pm, SBS – Hunt for the Wilderpeople

Sunday 31 May, 2020
9.20pm, SBS VICELAND – My Awkward Sexual Adventure, MA
10.15pm, SBS – Filthy Rich And Homeless Series 1 Ep 2, M

More information, and details on June programs, here. Mentions the launch of a “more comprehensive service by 30 June 2020”.

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I’m guessing Waikerie is trying to come into range in Renmark, Closest transmitter with that frequency

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Curious if anyone knows how far out from Canberra is the ABC ACT signal received?

The MySwitch website seems to indicate that the Canberra sub-market extends well out into NSW, but I would have assumed that the ABC would only broadcast the ACT feed from the transmitters actually located in the ACT.

Does anyone know any more?

I assume that places like Goulburn and Cooma would be shown ABC News Sydney at 7pm rather than ABC News Canberra.

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ABC ACT is being relayed to Yass, Bowning, Gunning, Bungendore & Captain’s Flat translators. The first 4 receives its signal off-air from Black Mountain, whilst Captain’s Flat receives its signal off-air from the Bungendore translator.

There are also translators in Tuggeranong & Weston Creek/Woden (which only has ABC & SBS transmitted from there in the case of the latter) in Canberra’s southern suburbs, but I was just referencing the translators within NSW that relays ABC ACT as opposed to ABC NSW.

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Very interesting. Thanks so much for your detailed answer :slight_smile:

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@TV-Expert, the off air signal feed can be found where?

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It can be found on this document: https://www.acma.gov.au/sites/default/files/2019-10/TV%20planning%20data%20web%20xlsx.xlsx

The above Excel document has ‘TS No’ for each TV service, and also provides ‘Input Method’ for each translator. For example, the TS No for ABC8 Canberra from Black Mountain is 1136059, and each of the translators using that TS No as its Input Method is being sourced from there. In the case of Captain’s Flat, the Input Method for ABC is 1135171, which is the TS No for ABC TV’s Bungendore translator, which relays its signal off-air from Black Mountain.

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I briefly ended up on Nine Sydney SD (LCN 9 or 91)during the NRL tonight and immediately noticed what a blockfest the channel has become since the inclusion of 9Gem HD and 9Rush.

The players look a bit like characters from an 80s video game and the text is hard to read in places.

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Good. Should push the stragglers with SD boxes and TVs towards an upgrade.

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ABC launches audio description service for blind or vision-impaired audiences

The popular ABC children’s series Bluey is set to open up for its young fans who are blind or vision-impaired with the launch of the ABC’s audio description service this week.

Bluey is one of more than a dozen ABC programs that will be audio described on the ABC’s Main Channel, ABC ME, ABC Comedy, ABC Kids and ABC News. The ABC, as well as SBS, will broadcast around 14 hours of audio described content each week.

The ABC’s Managing Director, David Anderson, welcomed the new service to the ABC, saying it would be a game-changer for the blind community. “Since we began our trial of the service earlier this month, we have had a huge response from users,” he said. “People who are blind or vision-impaired will now be able to enjoy many of their favourite ABC Television shows alongside their sighted friends and family.”

ABC shows that will be audio described include: Back Roads, Gardening Australia, The Heights and Compass on the ABC Main Channel; Little J and Big Cuz, Bluey and Play School on ABC Kids; and High Fidelity on ABC Comedy. Repeat episodes of Four Corners , Australian Story and Foreign Correspondent will also be audio described and broadcast on ABC Main Channel as well as on the ABC NEWS channel.

Coming up in July is the documentary In My Blood It Runs , the BBC series Les Miserables, Bran Nue Dae, Rosehaven and Monty Don’s Japanese Gardens.

Minister for Communications, Cyber Safety and the Arts, the Hon Paul Fletcher MP, said: “The Morrison Government’s additional funding of $4 million for the ABC and SBS to deliver this innovation provides blind and vision impaired Australians with greater access to television content.”

“I’m pleased our national broadcasters are embracing new ways to serve their audiences and broaden the variety of content available to blind and vision impaired Australians.”

To ensure the new service meets industry standards and the expectations of the blind or vision-impaired communities, ABC and SBS partnered with the Centre for Inclusive Design to undertake research with users from across Australia. The research has informed both broadcasters on the best design and functionality of the service to make it as accessible as possible.

A full list of ABC’s audio described content can be found on the ABC TV homepage at TV audio description.

More information on the service and how to access audio description on your television set can be found on the ABC Help page.

Audio Description

Audio description (AD) is the auditory narration of a TV program. It describes important visual elements of a television program, movie or performance between lines of dialogue. It is particularly beneficial to people who are blind and vision-impaired. As with Closed Captions, it can be turned on or off as needed.

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SD has been getting worse and worse… Time to cut the stragglers who refuse to upgrade and make the main channels 1080i H.264 and stop pussy footing around… After spending the last 5 months here in NZ, Australian TV quality and the way it is put to air looks like a massive joke…

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Regarding the main channels being SD, if you look at the ACMA Primary Commercial TV Services declaration 2020 draft, (Document IFC 11/2020), all networks except WIN, list the main channels as the SD ones. WIN TV in all locations list the main channel as WINHD, so for all the bagging out WIN get in here, funnily enough they are the leader of the pack & ahead of everyone else.

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SBS launches audio description service for vision-impaired viewers

The service will give those who are blind or vision-impaired a description of what is being shown on screen.

SBS is making its programming more accessible for audiences with the full launch of audio description (AD) across a range of SBS and SBS VICELAND content on TV.

Audio description - the narration of visual and non-verbal elements of a program during gaps in dialogue - offers people who are blind or vision-impaired an understanding of what is being shown on screen. Flagship documentaries, compelling dramas, world-class movies, and cult classics that SBS is known for will feature in the selection of programming available on the live broadcast of SBS and SBS VICELAND channels.

The range of upcoming audio described titles being shown in June and July include the new SBS-commissioned documentary series Who Gets to Stay in Australia? , which reveals stories of people seeking to call Australia home; SBS’s iconic genealogy series Who Do You Think You Are? ; inspiring stories of multicultural Australia in Where Are You Really From? , presented by Michael Hing; SBS favourite Great British Railway Journeys ; the iconic Godfather film series; and '90s cult phenomenon The X Files on SBS VICELAND - plus much more.

SBS has been running a successful trial of audio description across selected SBS and SBS VICELAND programming since early April. During that time, more than 135 hours of audio described content have been shown and SBS has been seeking feedback from audiences to help inform and improve how it delivers the service.

SBS Managing Director, James Taylor, said: “We’re thrilled to be making many of SBS’s distinctive and much-loved programs available for more Australians to enjoy with audio description. SBS’s documentaries, dramas and movies take audiences on journeys around the world, create national conversations about issues impacting our society, and provide unique opportunities to be entertained. The launch of audio description is an important step in continuing to improve the accessibility of our content, and ensure more Australians are included and able to engage with and experience our programming.

“I’d like to thank the groups and representatives who have been consulting with us and advocating for the many Australians who are blind or vision-impaired, as well as those who have taken part in our research and provided valuable insights as we have trialled the service. This has been vital in informing our approach. We continue to seek feedback from audiences to ensure we’re best meeting their needs.”

The trial and launch of audio description follow the Federal Government’s provision of grant funding to SBS and the ABC to implement audio description by 1 July 2020.

Minister for Communications, Cyber Safety and the Arts, the Hon Paul Fletcher MP, said: “The Morrison Government’s additional funding of $4 million for the ABC and SBS to deliver this innovation provides blind and vision-impaired Australians with greater access to television content.

“I’m pleased our national broadcasters are embracing new ways to serve their audiences and broaden the variety of content available to blind and vision impaired Australians.”

Emma Bennison, CEO of Blind Citizens Australia (BCA), has welcomed the launch, saying: “The introduction of audio description is a landmark step and life-changing milestone in making TV more accessible for people who are blind or vision-impaired.

“BCA and other blindness organisations have worked closely with both SBS and the ABC to facilitate their roll-out, and we acknowledge their commitment to providing a quality service that truly meets the needs of our community. We look forward more Australians now being able to enjoy TV with their family and friends, and the continued development of these important services.”

From 28 June, SBS and the ABC will be providing around 14 hours each of audio described content every week, supported by features designed to ensure all audiences are aware of when this programming is available. This includes an audio chime and on-air notification alerting audiences to audio description being provided for a program about to be broadcast.

SBS is also outlining the content it has coming up across SBS and SBS VICELAND on a dedicated audio described program listing web page, which is accessible for blind or vision-impaired people with the use of a screen reader. There will also be on-air promotion informing all audiences of what audio description is, and the letters ‘AD’ will feature alongside scheduled audio described titles in electronic program guides available on TVs, and on the SBS program guide on its website, in the same way closed captioning is indicated for audiences.

SBS and the ABC engaged the Centre of Inclusive Design to help advise on the development of audio description services, and to undertake research to help in understanding the requirements and preferences of people who are blind or vision-impaired.

Manisha Amin, CEO of the Centre for Inclusive Design, said: “We are so pleased that ABC and SBS involved users in the design and testing of the new system. Given the different television sets and ways that we watch TV these days it was important to gain real feedback on what worked and what didn’t.

“It was clear from our research that people were keen to have a quality audio description service. This is the first step on the journey. It’s heartening to see both broadcasters taking an inclusive design approach to their services with audience needs at the core of their offering.”

Find out more about SBS’s audio description services here.

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The downside of Australia adopting DTV tech in 2001 as opposed to 2007 as NZ did.
I figure once we’re closing into 10 years since the full analogue switch-off it may be considered, I doubt government wants to push it as an issue with how much money that was spent on giving away and installing SD STBs to the elderly & others (which they should have just done HD anyway, at the time this occurred there was at most $20 difference) during the switch-off period.

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Though their primary LCN of Channel 5 or 8, still points to their SD feed, not HD.

If they wanted to truly be a HD leader, they’d change this, but I can see why they don’t, due to the “stragglers” as @gordo92 points out.

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