Itās the same story in the southern half of the Sunshine Coast, where both 7 Brisbane & 7 Sunshine Coast are available from the Bald Knob transmitter, which is located near Maleny, west of Caloundra.
@RFBurns posted above about issues with ducting interfering with feeds to translator sites.
Well I have to say Iām VERY surprised Bouddi would be affected by this, since itās only 35 km from Artarmon.
And I donāt think itās good enough for Central Coast viewers, a population of some 300,000 people to mostly be without their preferred commercial TV channels because of this. They deserve to have their TV sites inputted with more reliable signals.
Port Stephens had greater problems then the Central Coast. The Illawarra digital tv channels used to kill the feed from Mt Sugarloaf when they got ducted. I believe they have implemented a new solution that has fixed the problem.
In defence, just about every TV translator site in Australia will be fed off air, from a high power main site (or off air from other translator sites), except for extreme cases.
Itās cost prohibitive to feed them via microwave, fibre or even satellite. Itās cheaper to make the area a blackspot & give the viewers a VAST Service.
Bouddi was an issue because itās a major site (but not main), & there were viewer complaints. Our monitoring said everything was working as normal, & Bouddi never went off air, so we donāt know if it was transmitting a pixelated picture from the receiver, or the issue was at the viewers locations?
The current conditions have been unpredictable, weāve had no reception on a top diversity antenna, & good reception on a bottom diversity antenna, 3 meters lower down the tower, at at least one site.
Aside from the Sydney issues, the Port Stephens translator site eventually got upgraded to a microwave feed, but that was an absolute last resort (due to costs involved), after many things were tried, but nothing else worked. It was also effected for long periods of time, multiple times per year, creating a high percentage down time.
Generally speaking, this current sort of ducting & off air feeds issue, would cause less than 1% of down time per year, at most larger, (tiny small population area & the old self help type site are not included), TV translator sites.
I lost my TV reception at Floraville last night, due to Iām guessing Knights Hill (going by posts here about Newcastle TV around Campbelltown), from Mt Sugarloaf (Main site) & also the local translator at Belmont North.
Not much point having the local translator on Block B, when itās fed off air from Mt Sugarloaf on Block C, in a spot that is well known for regular ducting Block C co-channel interference issues from Knights Hill.
The Sydney issues are not Co-Channel ducting issues, they are refracting signals from the main site, not being where they are supposed to be, & where they normally are.
Having issues again with Kurrajong Heights (NW Sydney) in Stanhope Gardens signal and quality went from 100% to 0%, thank god for Netflix!!
May need to put up a 10 element band 3 antenna and get DTV directly from Sydney and use my UHF for Illawarra. Ducting will be worse for Illawarra of course!!
Thanks, the 300,000 also included Wyong and Gosford, I assumed they were impacted by the same issue as Bouddi had, though maybe not to the same extent.
I can understand that off air feeds are the most cost effective solution.
Yes, Iāve been losing Sugarloaf on my external TV antenna a bit lately too, though oddly neighbours in my building havenāt reported the same issues. But in any case, rabbit ears usually gets Sydney reception perfectly on those occasions. I didnt watch any telly yesterday though.
Also cheaper to feed it via IP and use the 7plus and 9Now streams and play them out via CasparCG on Linux for down conversion and addition of HD overlays.
Ah. I donāt know much about SFNās and how they need to be exact.
The stream would already be out by around 1-2 seconds with the IP transmission but buffering wouldnāt be a real big issue if there is a NBN FTTN connection ready to be connected to the site.
I know for a fact that my TvHeadend server which is a TV Server for linux is out by 3-4 seconds from the time it comes off the mux and into the IP system.
How would you propose to get the IP data to the sites for no cost?
Why would you use a consumer grade web stream to feed the translator services, when you have available to use at/from the main sites, professional broadcast grade input data?
SFNās need to be timed exactly, & all translator site TX data streams include GPS timing via whatās called a MIP PID, if this is missing the SFNās donāt work, even though each of the sites has there own GPS clocks. The MIP PID is sent from the Broadcasters as part of their data stream & is transmitted from the main sites as part of the final signal data package. The web streams donāt include this vital info as itās not needed to watch a web catchup stream.
Most sites are on the top of a mountain without any landline services available (except overhead power lines).
A few of the translator sites used to have a phone landline (overhead), but every time a storm or bushfire went through the lines would be lost, so they were abandoned, all TX monitoring is via off air back to the main site (if possible) for visual, & monitoring data is sent back to the the main sites via 4G mobile networks.
Quite a few translator sites are in NBN Fixed Wireless areas, so NBN FTTN/FTTC/FTTP will never be available.
If you want to know what a MIP PID is, & how time critical SFNās are? Look at Single Frequency Networks on Wikipedia, it give basic, reasonably easy to understand info. Saves me having to explain it all.
Yeah overhead copper telco lines are a disaster waiting to happen. I got rid of my last one and went to 4G monitoring after a lightning strike destroyed it and it took Telstra 12 weeks to repair it.
Iām wondering if a couple of people can help me out. Iāve had a problem with my Fetch box for a couple of months where it gets all channels except for on the WIN multiplex it will only get WIN and ONE. It wonāt get Eleven, WIN HD, Gold, WIN Network etcā¦ I think it changed just after the WIN Network page changed over to the video format they now have.
Iāve been working with Fetch with it and Iāve offered to help their software engineers work with it as Iāve had a replacement box which didnāt fix it and I think it seems to be something localised to Tasmania and maybe a couple of other regions. When I was in Harvey Norman replacing the box the other week I asked the guy if heād had any others but he said no but there was a recent issue occurring with one model of Sony TVās from a couple of years ago affecting the same channels on WIN in Tasmania and one region in Victoria which he thought might be Ballarat or Bendigo. Something that Sony have been trying to fix.
Anyway, so what Iām after is any of the technical details that people might be able to provide me for WIN in their areas so I can compare them against Tasmania. I havenāt seen @EyewitnessTV around for a bit but Iām hoping he might be able to grab some details for Tassie too (I miss my tuner card ) Happy to take some recordings of transport streams or any reports and I can provide an email or hosting area if people want too. Not a huge deal, once the Big Bash is over I rarely watch WIN but one Iām curious about and would like to solve!