I recall 7Mate launching in HD in 2010.
Yes, before reverting back to SD in 2016, then launching again in HD in early 2020.
Agree, like unless there were local news bulletin opt-outs on the metro channels (like what 9 is doing and what 7 previously did on the GC) then it would only be the regionals that have the localised channel name. You would still get the same Melbourne offerings but you would also get the localised regionals (on relay from Ballarat) to cater for Geelong viewers, I.e advertising catered to that region.
Iâm sure advertisers in Geelong and surrounds (within the coverage area of the Highton transmitter) would be willing to put their ads on TV if a local regional relay was switched on at the same transmitter. Wouldnât hurt to do so. I imagine it wouldnât affect the current offerings, but it would also give people an alternative if they wanted to watch specific advertising for their region.
I donât think anyone deliberately watches advertising. ![]()
Because that was how Geelong residents always received their TV. The translator doesnât even cover Geelong properly.
It was put it in to fill a few reception holes around the area west of the city and in the shadow of the hills east of Geelong. But totally misses places like Highton where it is often needed. You only need to look at the huge VHF arrays on tall masts in some streets there.
Any whispers yet about Seven Two changing to HD and the dumping of Seven SD in Sydney and Melbourne?
Nothing confirmed but it should surely happen by the end of the year.
Maybe us MediaSpy users! ![]()
indeed. I used to have relatives on the Central Coast. Invariably they used to prefer to watch the translators from the Sydney 7 and 9 channels rather than the âlocalâ/Newcastle ones. Didnât give a toss about what ads they saw. For Ten, there was only the Sydney option as NRN never installed transmitter in that specific area.
(admittedly, in one case, for some reason they got better reception from the ATN translator compared to Prime (or it might have been TCN versus NBN. Too many years ago!), even though both were theoretically coming from the same tower, so that was the reason for that choice)
Assuming from the redirect from the VAST topic - the secondary channels are in SD owing to limited capacity on the satellite.
Assuming also being in the remote central region, there are two copies of the main channel - for the Queensland and Vic/NSW timezones, this meant that to make the main channel HD required more bandwidth than the single channel worth of HD that there was previously.
The cost of satellite capacity likely means this wonât change for a while to come - however perhaps with Sevenâs ownership of Seven Central they may optimise things, but nothing is guaranteed, they would probably prefer you stream on 7plus.
And that you forget 1080i picture quality even exists at all on Seven.
The livestreams on 7plus are maxed out to 720p or 720p50, previously there were 1080p50 streams up but in somewhere towards late February of this year Seven took them down. Donât see why they needed to cut off the 1080p livestreams of Channel 7 and its multichannels (where possible) when they were clearly there and that they couldâve utilised those for 7plus. Instead, ordinary viewers assume now itâs glorious 1080p on 7plus while watching a livestream of letâs say the main channel when in reality itâs not.
Yeah I wonder why the mods moved it here? It was pretty obvious that they were talking about VAST as they said that 7bogan was on 70 not 73.
They didnât exactly take them down. They still provide 1080p streams via 7+ for certain devices (Hubbl and Foxtelâs IP swap is 1080p, for example), but the âbootlegâ streams provided by MJH reverted to 720p. Iâd say he is only able to successfully circumvent AFL black outs using the 720p streams.
Thanks. Yes I was referring to VAST and 7 Central, so it seemed odd this was redirected. But in general the change has been good for coverage of footy, there are a decent number of Crows matches covered between 7 and 70. Handy in metro Melbourne. ![]()
Fun fact: When 7Two launched on LCN 72 on Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, Regional Queensland and Remote regions and LCN 62 on Sunshine Coast, Toowoomba, PRIME regions and GWN region, they had an countdown at the same time. I saw a video of it.
I did a very geeky thing this afternoon and took videos of the side by side set up and measured (in Windows) of the time differences between the different feeds using a video editor by noting the timestamps for when the same scene appeared on each feed.
The table illustrates my findings using Artarmon/Gore Hill as a âbenchmarkâ for each feed (thus they appear as 0.00 seconds)
Channel 7 has the biggest delays from Sydney to Newcastle/Central Coast regionals (nearly 7 seconds Artarmon), whilst SBS regionals are actually slightly ahead of Sydney (thus they show as a minus).
n/a - denotes that there is only 1 ABC/SBS feed on the Central Coast - SBS is under metro as the network name for UHF 40 is âSBS Sydneyâ and is fed off air from Gore Hill and ABC Central Coast UHF 41 is under regionals as the network name is âABC NSWâ and not fed off air from Gore Hill (as that is âABC Sydneyâ).
To note, ABC on the Central Coast & Mt Sugarloaf are fed off Satellite feeds & they differ from the metro Sydney service.
SBS on the Central Coast is fed off air from Sydney the same as 7, 9 & 10 Metro, also noting SBS main site is Artarmon, Gore Hill is their backup site. Gore Hill is only the main site for ABC TV.
Belmont North is fed off air from Mt Sugarloaf, so Iâm not sure how SBS Belmont North can be ahead of Mt Sugarloaf, (if Iâm reading that correctly)?
The 3 commercial regional stations at Wyong are fed via microwave links (from Long Jetty Telephone exchange) using the Telstra DVN network, ABC is satellite fed & SBS is fed off air from Artarmon.
Some of the translator delays will be due to SFN timing across the networks.
Ah, I realised that because they are both referenced against SBS at Artarmon, Sugarloaf is 0.99 seconds ahead of Artarmon whereas Belmont North is only 0.88 seconds ahead. So yes Sugarloaf is ahead of Belmont North.
There has been something in Prime/7 Regionalâs delivery chain that adds a significant delay for a long time now - it used to get up to 10 seconds at times

