Daylight Saving

This is essential. It is a nightmare in April. Just ridiculous.

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DST starts tonight.

I imagine with modern timekeeping, there won’t be many devices that need to be adjusted unlike the past. Perhaps a microwave or wall clock. That’s assuming the broadcasters get it right on their DTV, DAB or RDS etc. I recall some years Queensland TV having the wrong EPG’s for the Sunday - not good for PVR recording.

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Well daylight savings has now officially begun in NSW, VIC, TAS, ACT and SA - still waiting for QLD, NT and WA to catch up with the time’s of course :wink:.

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But if you compare to Europe, they only have 2 timezones for a similar distance span.

Greece is only 1 hour ahead of Spain, and that’s about the same distance as Perth to Melbourne.

Then you have Italy in the same timezone as Spain, and that’s about the distance of Perth to Adelaide.

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The worst day of the year. 47 hour weekend sucks.

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Hmm I’m a bit confused Spain and Italy aren’t that far geographically are they? A flight from Barcelona to Rome is about 90 minutes whereas Adelaide to Perth is 210 minutes.

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If you are an NRL fan and/or in NSW/QLD, having the Grand Final today and a public holiday tomorrow more than makes up for that.

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Europe has three main time zones.

Portugal and the UK are in the same timezone. Then Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden to Poland are in another. While Greece lines up with Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Estonia to Finland.

The distances are much closer together than Australia. The direct distance between Lisbon and Athens is 2910 km. The direct distance between Sydney and Perth is 3290 km.

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SA also has a public holiday (Labour Day), so at least that will make up for the fact that my alarm somehow messed up and woke me up at 5am.

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Yeah SA have labor day. Victoria hasn’t got it well placed.

Didn’t you guys just had a public holiday 9 days ago :laughing:.

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Except if you’re the Herald Sun, which astonishingly published on page 2 of its mostly widely read edition that daylight saving had ended and all clocks must have been turned back one hour overnight.

Someone who didn’t realise would now be two hours behind!

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Given it took them until today to do an article about Kyle and Jackie O’s comments about Melbourne listeners, they are probably already behind anyway :laughing:

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OMG, that is very poor journalism. Sounds like it was all the same standard pre-written stuff they print twice a year but clicked on the wrong file.

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Heard a wrong time call on the radio this morning on a QLD station that was one hour behind - perhaps just an error :thinking:

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Don’t get me wrong I loved that public holiday. But this weekend is always hard for me with the 47 hours. I’m just happy I am on leave in 2 weeks.

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Decided to sit down and check out some of the differences between daylight in several locations across the country. Quite a difference in day length between the north and south of the country. The ones highlighted in red are in DST. Without DLS then Hobart would be starting to get light before 4am.

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Thanks for putting that together @ando9185.

Surely those numbers for Brisbane, Cairns, Darwin, Alice Springs and Perth all present a reasonable case for shifting to DST.

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The most valid concern with DST in summer is that you’re going to bed only a couple of hours after sunset, which generally means it’s hotter that it would be without DST. That’s the disadvantage of shifting daylight to the end of the day. It’s not so much of a concern in mild summer climes like southern Victoria and Tasmania, but it would definitely be a factor in places like WA and QLD. The extra hour of daylight at the end of the day would be ‘endured’ rather than ‘enjoyed’ in these hot summer climes.

Most of the population is southward and in mostly moderate summer climes, so the advantages of DST generally outweigh the disadvantages. But even in places like outer western Sydney, you’re willing the sun to cease its angry torment on many days, the same in the outer suburbs of Adelaide.

The advantages of daylight shifting (I think a better description than daylight ‘saving’) are anyway more muted the further north you go, as that table above demonstrates. Darwin has a pretty minimal difference between the summer and winter solstices compared to the southern cities, which is to be expected because it’s only 12 degrees from the Equator.

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The thought did cross my mind the other day- I wonder if, with the climate generally getting hotter and more humid, and the high proliferation of air conditioning and other energy-intensive cooling measures (along with the much increased efficiency of LED lighting over older forms of lighting), the traditional argument that DST saves energy increasingly no longer holds true (and that overall energy consumption would go down with sunset an hour earlier in summer).

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