COVID-19: Greater Sydney & NSW Re-Opens

When the PM, Chief Minister or Premier say that they’re willing to go down that path, then yes absolutely.

They already have - what do you think the roadmap is?

What they haven’t done is cause mass hysteria any earlier than is necessary. We are still months away from being in a good position to really draw restrictions down so there is no benefit to talking about that yet.

We’re literally in stage one of that roadmap. Let’s focus on the next month.

Maybe read my post and see that with “the way things are going at the moment” that we are well on track to be well above 70% there before Christmas.

Instead you seem to just want to be so pessimistic. I’m just not sure why you keep drilling this narrative about not having a normality until Easter next year. Christmas this year Australia is likely to be there and the only reason we won’t be is if vaccination rates significantly drop from what they are now (which I think is very unlikely).

How can you be positive when you’re currently in a position which doesn’t allow you to go outside the boundaries of your Local Government Area (and pretty much outside your house unless you’re wearing a mask) for the foreseeable future?

Sure, things could be a lot worse (for a start, I don’t particularly envy the position kids/teenagers are in right now) but they certainly could be better…

Privately, there isn’t a problem in having those conversations, but publicly through press conferences? Yes, not the place for it.

And some wonder why we have this state v state stuff lol.

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I’ve answered this users posts several times with factual information that clearly shows an estimate around the end of the year and they just ignore it and continue to push their opinion - I wouldn’t waste time arguing.

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At some stage, this will definitely happen, not immediately but there would come a point in time, you have to flick the switch, once sufficient reasonable opportunity has been provided.

Not strange at all, my personal sentiments echo this longer-term view very closely. We’ll see what develops as time rolls on, so to speak.

You’d think she was a millennial, the whole ‘light’ attitude.

You can’t promise nothing. Hasn’t anything been learnt here?

I agree with David. In December australia was the envy of the world but that has completely turned. It’s clear herd immunity was the best strategy and it is possible NSWs will be in a better position than any other state in 2
Months let alone by Christmas.

We also have to remember Victoria had double the amount of cases last year and ended up covid free before Christmas. People have short term memories in this forum.

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I agree that these lockdowns are pushing up vaccination numbers in the affected areas - record levels reported in Brisbane for example last couple of days.

But, that doesn’t apply to the rest of the state. The lockdown LGAs might have nothing to do but that doesn’t apply elsewhere.

Regional areas that have rarely seen COVID let alone a lockdown are going to need a concerted effort to get people motivated to get vaccinated.

The flu vaccines released every year are usually developed in the same time frame. The scientists and medical experts create vaccines based on decades of knowledge about how viruses work.

Taking the vaccine won’t be in vain if it prevents you from dying. If a strain emerges that is resistant to vaccines then the scientists and medical experts will work on creating a booster vaccine for that too.

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There is a site run by one Anthony Macali (COVIDLIVE) that appears to have good data, which has a nice table of total active cases, calculated with each days’ data, providing a realistic look at how NSW is faring in controlling spread (I know some here having already referenced this site). I will note the table’s numbers include both community transmission and those from overseas in hotel quarantine. Out of the 3,924 active cases, only 58 were directly caught from those returning from overseas, which is less than 2%.

The trend is very clear and the question is what will NSW do to stop further people movement and the continued spread. Considering they increased movements last week, which is against any logic in dealing with this issue, and Premier’s comments in the last fortnight, they will let it run as is seeing vaccination as the silver bullet, which would likely mean quite a while to go yet in lockdown for Sydney.


June 28 I think was when lockdown started.

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Not just appears too. It does have good data. This has been my go too for well over a year now.

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I can’t say it does after only 2 minutes, but there is enough correlation with official data to make me happy after a few minutes.

Looks like Armidale LGA will lockdown tonight - single case

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GOAL ABANDONED: Gladys concedes defeat as NSW covid cases soar:

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/covid-australia-live-news-gladys-concedes-defeat-as-nsw-cases-soar/live-coverage/8592ea7a2090edf75fab5002aa5042cc

A short-term focus leads to a loss of perspective and holistic purpose. We need to be focusing on the long-term roadmap and setting some realistic expectations and thresholds for us to reach over the next 6-12 months.

The piecemeal, short term approach that we have seen to date isn’t exactly working out well is it? We have protests in the street (verging on riots as we saw in Sydney a couple of weeks ago), we have widespread anxiety and hesitancy about the future, we have people flouting restrictions due to a lack of personal and societal investment in the lockdown, we have political leadership at a federal level that is on the verge of collapse and we will be left with a deeply divided country at the end of all this due to the persistent bickering and point-scoring from all sides.

The circuit needs to be broken. We need to do something different to redirect the trajectory that we are on as a country. Locking everybody in their houses is not a long-term solution.

Another five COVID-related deaths: A woman in her 80s, a man in his 80s and a man in his 90s, all from south west Sydney, died at Liverpool Hospital. A man in his 60s from south west Sydney also passed away at Liverpool Hospital and a man in his 80s from the Inner West died at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital. They acquired their infections in the community. None of them were vaccinated.

138 were in isolation throughout their infectious period and 32 were in isolation for part of their infectious period. 51 cases were infectious in the community, and the isolation status of 98 cases remains under investigation.

112 of today’s cases were from south west Sydney and 98 were from western Sydney and two were from Hunter New England local health district.

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Brad Hazzard. What sort of an update is this?

The official account has already posted 319 local case numbers and now the supers are showing the numbers before ne makes the announcement.

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