COVID-19: Discussion (2022 Onwards)

Hey ATAGI, can I get my fourth dose yet?

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What a broad and illogical statement. Perth people weren’t stupid enoguh like Sydne and Melbourne who ignored the lockdowns. Did we not see some of the most moronic idiots out of all states out of the covid lock downs? What about the two idiots who snuck into wa to go to the footy match? lol. I still think W.A came out on top. Most people from what I understand were happy with what McGowan had did. It was just the eastern staters who were winging and complaining.

Mate, let’s leave that state vs state rhetoric back in 2021 where it belongs.

McGowan’s response was populist but also brutally effective. Geography played into their favour but they made the most of the favourable conditions and that is something I respect. There could have been more compassion shown especially when it came to people with family interstate but that’s what the people wanted and in the end those people had to ‘take one for the team’ whether justified or not.

Every state has their fair share of idiots and WA is no exception. Their geographic isolation allowed them to be a fortress within the fortress which was a benefit not afforded to the eastern states so any comparison is between apples and oranges based on that alone.

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No, you started it with your statement so therefore I have a right to reply and make a statement based on what I saw. I am responding to it. You again bought it up.

Nah rules are rules. The eastern states complained about it all the time. McGowan did what he had to do to make sure that his citizens were protected. And I highly doubt the majority that wanted to come to WA for a funeral or to visit sick family were legitimate either. They just didn’t like have to follow restrictions. You just have to see the amount of eastern state.people tried to sneak in at the bottom. Funny how it’s people like you wanted the rule change for you. Haha. Load of bullocks to be honest.

Anyway New South Wales and Victoria proves during this period what kind of attitude they have. Problem is the government in those states thought that they could bully WA government into relaxing the rules. Didnt work.

Good to see the standard of conversation in the COVID threads hasn’t changed since 2020.

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That was one of the biggest mistakes in Australia’s Pandemic response. Leaving it to state governments rather than one unified national approach and a reason on getting rid of state governments.

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I think you might have me mistaken for someone else, I haven’t bought WA up recently.

The comment you responded to is right though, it was a very different experience on the eastern seaboard compared to WA. With the eastern states being much more interconnected with each other and with the wider world there were simply so many more opportunities for Covid to get in and so many potential points of failure which we saw happen on numerous occasions.

Frankly I find your statement that people in Sydney and Melbourne ignored lockdowns to be, to quote your own words, a broad and illogical one, as well as extremely offensive to everyone who did the right thing. The overwhelming majority of people abided by the rules and there were isolated rule breakers everywhere, and WA was no exception as was shown during their snap lockdowns.

Yes, he did what he had to do to protect his citizens, but there should have been a better process for those genuine legitimate cases (which did very much exist despite what you argue), quarantine for those genuine circumstances should have always been an option (which is was not when the so called ‘extreme risk zones’ were bought in late last year.

There was a breakdown in respect between all of the state governments (and federal) with the way things were handled in 2021. McGowan was attacking the eastern states just as much as there were any attacks the other way- he certainly gave as good as he got.
Frankly that period was a pretty shameful one in our nation’s history all around, never have I felt the nation to be so divided and the level of bitterness and anger in the community was insane. Thankfully most people have moved on and the nation has largely healed and bounced back which has been wonderful to see.

Oh please. It’s 2023 and people are still saying things like this?

These are not same for same comparisons. WA spent such limited time in lockdowns, so to say that other states that endured the long haul of them “complained” or “didn’t like to follow restrictions” is pretty harsh.

The fact is that an infectious virus can’t be contained for long periods. Bigger and more populous states suffered more, suffered longer lockdowns and therefore as time went on definitely people’s motivation to stick to the rules would have waned to some level. To try and pinpoint spread on rule breaking is ridiculous, when many times the virus had already well circulated before it has been picked up on it lockdowns began in these cities.

WA did well but you can’t disregard that they have a much smaller population and only endured very few lockdowns (only for short periods too), so of course people are going to suck it up much more easily for such short periods of time.

Regardless, surely we’ve all learnt by now that an infectious disease could only be contained for so long. Eventually it got out in WA and luckily for them that was when we had vaccines. So they didn’t have to endure what some of us did.

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Can’t everybody get it now?

Not for under-30s.

Healthy people aged 16 years to under 30 years who do not have risk factors for severe COVID-19, are not currently recommended to receive an additional booster dose.

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/getting-your-vaccination/booster-doses

Doesn’t sound like you can’t get it, they just don’t recommend it, i.e.: they don’t think it is necessary in this circumstance.

Continuing the trend of ignoring health advice for political expediency

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Screening doesn’t go far enough.

They need to be quarantined, or prohibited from entry.

It’s been 3 years. At what point do we move on from restrictions and calls for quarantining and border closures?

This virus isn’t going away. The quicker we let it take the world the quicker it’ll turn into the common flu and become less deadly.

The virus is already circulating the country at the moment, what’s closing to China ganna do? It’s already here.

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1 billion infections in twelve months is cause enough to let them duke it out in their own country for a while.

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But based on that then pretty much everyone coming from every country should be subjected to the same treatment right?

I don’t trust the CCP at the best of times (let alone their backflip on COVID zero) but surely even blind Freddie can see that these measures will only drive further division amongst communities whilst not really being effective in its intended outcomes. I can definitely catch the feeling from the community that the Chinese feel like they’ve got a target on their back for no reasonable explanations as to why when other people from other places aren’t subjected to the same requirements.

I don’t think the Chinese tourists/travellers deserve to be subjected to what is more political point scoring rather than genuine health measures. If the political leaders have a problem with the government then take it up and aim at them, don’t implement moves that will only disadvantage the people who have done nothing wrong.

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Australia and NZ had higher levels of infections for months per capita than US, UK, EU and Brazil ever saw during the pandemic - and no one bothered or care to block Aussies from travelling.

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Add that to the fact that the current variant that keeps popping up in the headlines seems to have originated in the USA (as well as the likes of XBB originating from Singapore etc), yet we have heard nothing about travel restrictions when that happened.

If we were going to have rules in place for one country then it needs to be uniform across the board for all countries. If not then it shouldn’t be implemented at all. It’s only fair that way and it’s also scientifically sensible. That also includes China removing their ludicrous testing 48 hours before departure requirement because it’s just as useless.

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Ya’ll are missing the point about government responses. At least the western countries have measures in place.

Id has literally just flipped the table and said “fine, you want it… you can have it”

He doesn’t care if 500 million die… because he’ll never be voted out of power.

I tested positive for the first time today. My symptoms are much worse than everyone else that has had it once or twice before. No one seems to believe me that I’m actually feeling sick and struggled to get out of bed. They are so used to everyone having a second infection with little or no symptoms.

Did anyone else have a really lucid dream the night before testing positive. One of my friends and me did, but there isn’t much on the internet about it.

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