COVID-19: China / Australia relationship

No doubt there’s been an increase in Anti-Chinese/Anti-Asia racism in Australia because of COVID-19 (and that should be rightfully condemned from all sides of politics), but is it really necessary to issue a ‘warning’ (to put it mildly) regarding Chinese citizens travelling to Australia? We’ve seen worse before and such warnings have never been issued ever.

It’s more or less a sign of things to come between us and China (and not particularly good things by the looks).

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Look racism in Australia has always been awful. If I was Chinese I would think twice about travelling to Australia as well.

I travelled to China about 4 years ago, I didn’t know any of the language. No one got frustrated with me. Security at train stations and airports were helpful. One security guard at a train station asked someone from the public to interpret something for me as I was somewhere where I shouldn’t be.

On my way through customs in Australia. A customs officer was yelling and abusing a Chinese family for not filling out the forms correctly. She said in Australia you must know english. It was completely uncalled for. Racism in Australia is shocking. So I don’t blame the Chinese government for warning its citizens.

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Very good point. Law enforcements and customs officers are doing their jobs but they should be more compassionate to ALL travellers from different countries that might have difficulties in understanding English. I’ve seen this a lot and it frustrates me beyond no end.

Though I’m not sure why they aren’t focusing on other places like America which is arguably worse in terms of racism towards Asians/African Americans/Hispanics and that country is in shambles right now because of it. In the wake of recent events I would’ve thought that the Chinese government would warn their citizens about America more than anywhere else.

Glad to hear that you’ve had a fairly positive experience with Chinese people in China. In some places it’s quite the opposite but most of the people in the big cities are usually quite friendly and helpful.

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Since customs declaration forms are now printed in several foreign languages, Customs officers must be thinking that all travellers will understand what things they must declare when they come into Australia.

He’s doing the right thing, China is a Nationalist Communist dictatorship that’s commuting crimes on par with the Nazis, same ideology, one race of Han Chinese. They are a threat to freedom in Hong Kong and Taiwan. The sooner we cut them off and push for democracy in China the better. Give our business to countries that deserve it like India or even better bring back Aussie jobs.

How do you know they deserve it more than others? I’m sure there are many countries which could do with our business.

In the short term that is not going to happen. It’s not something the Australian economy can afford at the moment. In the long run, maybe.

I’m not sure where you got that from. Certainly their treatment of those in Tibet and Xinjiang should be called out but I’m sure there are still other ethnic minorities which are still treated like Chinese people.

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They are crusing the Muslim and Tibetan people’s, forcing them to take on the Han Chinese identity. We should have never dealt with China in the first place, the world needs to take a stand, we can manage without them.

India deserves our business more than China, they are a democracy with human rights, not Nazis.

Communism =/= nazism.

I don’t endorse communism personally but comparing communism to nazism is like comparing apples and oranges. Both are bad and a waste of time but they’re bad in their different ways.

Australia, like all countries, should be able to stand on its two feet economically and politically but that is something that needs to be worked on in the long term.

As for your point about India, many countries also deserve business from Australia (and for more reasons than the fact that they’re a democracy) so why is India more deserving than all others?

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All of what you said still doesn’t make racism ok…

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China is no longer Communist, only in name, their official policy is National Communism, totalitarian governmental control to enforce policies that promote the national interest of China, in the setting of a capitalist economy, theres nothing communistic about China, no free housing or health care, your better of as a poor person in America than China. Fun fact German Nazism stands for National Socialism.

I’m not being Racist I have nothing against the Chinese people, I have a problem with their Totalitarian Government, which is the world’s biggest threat today.

That’s what most countries are aiming to do. Even Trump with his ‘America First’ rhetoric.

Look how well that turned out.

As I said before I’m not a supporter of communism or the CCP (far from it in fact) but it would be nothing short of an absurd take to say China is all bad and everyone else is good. All have their flaws and all have their strengths. And if you’re saying that China is a threat to the world, that won’t happen for many years because of the entrenched American cultural imperialism and political influence that will continue for many years, for better or for worse.

You’re obviously a fan of Paul Murray and his stance on world issues so there’s no point discussing this issue because you’re going to be sprouting his POVs no matter what other people argue.

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Of course the west is not perfect but it’s a hell of alot better than a Nationalist totalitarian dictatorship, we need to hold our values.

An editorial published by the Global Times, a Communist Party mouthpiece, warned the travel ban “may just be the tip of the iceberg”.

“If Australia wants to retain the gain from its economic ties with China, it must make a real change to its current stance on China, or it will completely lose the benefits of Chinese consumers,” it wrote.

It may be a mouthpiece but we should be alarmed with the comments. Why should we just accept all policies from the Chinese Government and stop commenting and analysing, just in order to do business with them or accept visitors from the country?

Enough said.

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Yeah stuff China, whilst it’s sad good chinese people cannot travel to Australia we cannot allow their Communist fascist dictatorship to continue.

What are you going to do about it though? Boycotting Chinese tourists will only get us so far in the short-term but it’s by no means going to literally stop their dictatorship quite literally.

Plus what you’re saying is highly offensive to the Chinese-Australian people. None of them would like to see their ancestral country get ‘stuffed’ as you imply.

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I have nothing against Chinese people, but has a principaled man who believes in democracy in sick of China being treated as if it as western democracy when it’s the modern equirelent to Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.