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certainly, is tough in Brewing at the moment. Brisbaneā€™s Newstead Brewing co shut up shop last week

Newstead Brewing Closes For Good - The Crafty Pint

The main reason the beer industry is suffering at the moment, is the twice-yearly indexation of beer excise.

While Labor announced at the end of February that it would pause the indexation of the draught beer excise (for beer sold in pubs and restaurants) for two years should it win the upcoming federal election, you have to wonder why Labor and LNP had not thought of changing the excise when they were in power.

I would say that is part of it but also due to cost of living pressures people are finding cheaper beers to drink. Or if they are drinking the expensive craft beers they may do so less frequentlty plus itā€™s quite a competitive industry with lots of players in the market.

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There are so many different brands and products now. There canā€™t be a market for them all.

Because it brings in revenue?

its cost of living. take this example. I sued to drink Balter XPA. cost for a 16 can case is $63.95 at dans at the moment. ($3.99 a can)

Iā€™ve switched back to 150 lashes which is 54.90 for a case of 24. ($2.20 a bottle). almost half the price.

I donā€™t drink at pubs (Iā€™m tired of pubs where the only entertainment is the 8 TVs , 4 are showing horse racing, 2 are the trots, 1 is greyhounds and the other is keno, the food is the same crap thatā€™s barely warm and edible and the audio is the racing ) so i generally would pay more for good beer, but when my costs are going up and my wages are not, i need to cut where i can, and cutting back on luxury is one way i save cash

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Seems like every big cafe brand is putting coffee products in supermarkets. This is Allpress.

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I used to live down the road from their roaster in Sydney and really liked their coffee and went there for lunch regularly. But their coffee beans are expensive at over $60 a kg I pay $20 for mine from Amazon. Iā€™ll be curious to see how these taste and how long they last in the supermarket for.

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These are pretty decent for canned coffee

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Have you not heard of the Laffer Curve? Itā€™s a proven fact. Lower taxes (excise) and increase revenue.

Yes. Even though I tend to go imported brands, I appreciate the sentiment. If we go back five years we used to always be able to get a decent beer at $40 a carton on special. So yeah, didnā€™t matter what it was I used to always buy Heineken, Becks, Miller, Budweiser, Coors at 40 bucks. Because there was always one of them one special.

Here in Queensland, Palaszczuk decided to introduce the 10c rebate scheme so that immediately increased prices (by at least $2.40 a carton). Plus weā€™ve had inflation, plus the regular excise increase.

Five years on and Iā€™m looking at $59 for a ā€˜cheapā€™ carton. I buy Coors, Asahi and Suntory.

But thatā€™s an amazing increase in just five years.

As someone who could drink for Australia if called upon, its scary to see some of the price rises in booze recently. I tend to drink local craft beer which becomes expensive, but I go for quality over quantity otherwise iā€™d be broke!

Which is a $2.40 discount on your next carton.


The main question would be, given how much support is given for the wine industry to keep prices low and keep them competitive, should similar not be done for other drinks.

Problem would be - most Beer is locally brewed, even most ā€œimportedā€ brands - so anything to help small breweries would be a massive gift to multinationals, you donā€™t need to be giving Lion more cash.

Maybe there could be less excise for Australian brewed/Australian owned brands.

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These have been around for a while now. Oporto sell them too.

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Pretty sure thatā€™s not how ā€˜containers for changeā€™ works.

Funnily enough Iā€™m not someone who blindly thinks anything that is brewed locally is better just because itā€™s Australian. Maybe itā€™s because Iā€™m not from here but Iā€™m not particularly partial to the over-hopped, overly-bitter, swill-aftertaste of Australian beer. There are some rare exceptions (Redback Original and maybe Heavenly Creatures). Give me a well crafted Asahi or Sapporo any day of the week. Even if brewed under licence here in Australia.

So itā€™s not Lion Iā€™m giving my cash to, itā€™s Kirin and Asahi. Both master brewers with a long history employing Australians.

Just another thing you like to bag Australia about. Itā€™s quite an extensive list you have created. :crazy_face:

Not literally, but money can be exchanged for goods and services. Take the cans back, get the amount deposited to your bank or as cash, then that 10 cents isnā€™t a new 10 cents you need to pay for the next can.

Iā€™m in Victoria, so maybe these wonders havenā€™t reached Queensland, but thereā€™s a bottle shop near me with a container return machine inside, so you can pretty literally grab the refund receipt and use it immediately on the new purchase.

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Itā€™s interesting how there is an emphasis on protein these days. I noticed that Uncle Tobyā€™s muesli bars now highlight Protein over everything else.

These Limited Edition muesli bars are in Pretzel, Cookies and Cream, Iced Coffee and a Violet Crumble collaboration.