As I said earlier…gee left-wing Aussies are obsessed with pedophiles when it comes to anything to do with religion. Get another track!
FreeTV’s lawyers also referred the group to guidelines issued by the Advertising Standards Bureau “in light of the same-sex marriage plebiscite”, defining political advertising as “comment upon a matter which is currently the subject of extensive political debate”.
We’re constantly told that the vote on same-sex marriage has nothing to do with anything else…why was an ad on fathering censored for being on “matter currently the subject of extensive political debate”?
What sort of loopy world do we live in where fathers pictured with their children in the lead up to Father’s Day is considered “political” matter?
Not sure if you’ve watched the ad question but it’s a beautifully produced ad.
Problem is Das4kids have in the past been a rather vocal group against SSM. Have a dig around online and you’ll find plenty of evidence of their lobbying.
End of the day, all FreeTV requested was a written and authorised tacked on the end, Das4kids made it an issue by running off to The Australian.
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So what? How on earth does that impact the fact that this content is not political, and it is completely unremarkable that a group about Dads should be advertising in the lead up to Father’s Day…?
Of course it is an issue that it was censored without a “political authorisation tag”, when it isn’t political content.
Current climate it is. Dads4Kids had a sook. FreeTV did their job. Move on to the next outrage.
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Of course the next outrage is “how dare people mention XYZ in the same-sex marriage debate, when all we have to mention is how gay people love each other”.
In those cases, children and fathering are definitely NOT to be linked with same-sex marriage. 
I give up. You miss the point and confect hyperbolic outrage yet again. They’re a political lobby group.
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Actually, you’ve missed the point.
FreeTV regulates television commercials containing political matter. They don’t regulate “lobby groups”.
They consider political matter to be matter which is characterised as participation in the political process or as an attempt to influence or comment upon that process.
This commercial was neither.
Dads4Kids rightly raised the issue with national media. FreeTV failed to do their job according to their own standards.
So, in the end, you’re the one who has confected hyperbolic outrage by attacking me as somehow presenting something totally unreasonable, rather than something simply factual.
The postal survey is part of the political process.
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…obviously. We’re talking about the commercial FreeTV censored…FreeTV didn’t censor Turnbull’s postal survey…
Correct. It’s a political ad as part of this political process. Not sure how that’s difficult to understand.
LOL have you even understood what we’re discussing here? Come back to me once you have read through what we’ve said, without the snarky attitude, and without the faux misunderstanding that an ad about fatherhood is linked with the same-sex marriage debate (even though we are constantly told by same-sex marriage proponents that such issues have NOTHING to do with same-sex marriage).
The postal survey will proceed after the High Court today dismissed lawsuits from two separate groups.
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Glad to see the ABS have kept the design of the envelopes inconspicuous to prevent theft by malicious postal workers and members of the public.
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Going by the location on that thing, i guess most people in Sydney should get them on Wed or Thu.
Thanks for the link & cap of the tweet.
That is pretty bad and I agree with the criticism in the article that if anything similar were suggested by the other side the reaction would be huge (more than what’s been seen for this, so far).
When I saw this reaction to people advocating SSM from the Deputy PM under a long white cloud, I couldn’t help thinking Shut up and listen Joyce; you’re the ones who wanted a public ‘debate’:
“I can’t stand these people who stand at the corner and start yelling at you about what your views are on a very personal issue, just get out of my face, leave me alone I will make the decision up myself,” he told RN Breakfast.
I mean how dare members of the electorate express their views to their elected representatives?
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I honestly think that if it had simply been left to the politicians to have a conscience vote, it would have got messy and violent. If it had been during the last term of Parliament, the three amigos as they were called, Bass, Braddon and Lyons in Tas I think would have voted against. I doubt though that if they had voted no, there wouldn’t have been a huge backlash and ramifications for their safety or that of their property. Of course the talk would have been “they should vote with what the electorate wants” but how are we to know what the electorate wants?
Surely it could have been possible to get a plebiscite through and allow no advertising or have such a short period of time that it could be decided quickly. I think most people have formed their opinions already and aren’t likely to change them, I would hope they’ve listened to both sides and thought objectively about them and then made their decisions.
The 3 amigos also lost their places last election because they were pretty useless, I do wonder how many others who were opposed to SSM also lost their seats last election.
Q&A has just finished after 1.25 hours talking (mostly) about marriage equality. Then comes Lateline… “our special discussion on same sex marriage”.
Groan.
Like, seriously, can the media (pointing at the ABC on this occasion but they are far from alone in this) discuss something other than SSM? I’m not against SSM but goodness me I’m worn out just hearing about it from both sides, especially now with each side claiming theirs is a “respectful debate” when there are glaring examples of the opposite happening from both yes and no sides.
And there’s still 2 months of this to go.
SSM fatigue rant over… back to your respectful debates, people…
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Agreed. I just try and block it all out on social media, it just doesn’t stop at the moment.
Sadly I don’t expect it to slow down over the next 2 months either…
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I missed Q&A tonight but enjoying Lateline and the focus on faith. Something only the ABC would do with any notion of credibility and Lateline is the perfect vehicle for such a discussion.
Having said that, I often wonder if different programmes on both tv and radio actually talk to each other and what they’re going to cover. Too much focus on subjects can cause ambivalence amongst the audience.