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Or an ABC owned by Murdoch and rebranded FOX. Just this week he said he still wanted to own a network in Australia. Maybe he knew something about what the Liberals planned or had been talking to them.

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I’d rather my taxes not subsidise a weekly platform for Greens & Labor to fawn over themselves in the Q&A audience. But that’s just me…

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Typical right wing false rhetoric which is completely wrong.

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To be honest I consider myself rather centre in terms of politics. But there is a clear bias on the ABC. It’s as evident as Sky News is right, ABC is left.

Difference being we don’t have to pay for Sky.

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Look Firetorch, just because you say you’re centre, doesn’t mean you are.

firetorch?

I’m a marriage equality, Turnbull supporting liberal. Sorry more centre than right.

And what do you stand to benefit if News Corp takes control of the narrative? Abbott out the arse.

The ABC has its problems, I’ll admit, but the Corporation and its sister SBS are by far the most informative news organisations available. Both have their merits.

When was the last time you heard Nine or Seven cover issues like Closing the Gap?

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…and according to a recent survey, both the ABC and SBS were the most trusted news organisations in the country.

BTW, I completely agree that even though the ABC isn’t without its fair share of problems (Q&A, NYE coverage), the Australian media landscape would be considerably poorer without it.

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People said similar things before Telstra was privatised.

If you keep the same or similar charter, then it’s ok.

At the very least allow advertising on the ABC so taxpayers don’t have to pay for it.

This is false. Where are these alleged left wing opinion programs? Where are the bolt, fat Murray, psychopath Rowan dean on the abc? Where is the deep state, climate change denying conspiracy theories on the abc?

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And then the government had to create NBN to build the new network and look how great that worked out.

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And now we have a tax-payer funded NBN. Nice one.

Commercial television costs the average household $800 in impulse buying. The ABC costs each household only $100.

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How ridiculous. There’s a clear difference between discretionary spending and taxes.

And the difference is? If those people didn’t watch commercial TV they’d be $800 better off, which is a bigger benefit than any of Turnbull’s tax cuts.

My point is: a lot of people prefer their money to go toward something which benefits us all. Even Nine and Seven benefit from the ABC.

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I’m not sure why I have to explain to you the difference between taxes and discretionary spending on consumer goods or services an average person may (or may not have) seen on commercial television.

I know the difference.

What I’m saying is that ad-free government supported television saves a household more than it costs. I don’t particularly care if you have some ideological opposition to the ABC; I’m stating the facts.

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That’s like saying you bought something on special so you’re saving money.

You’re not, you’re still spending money. Ideology aside, I’d prefer not to have to pay. There’s a revenue stream there and it should be taken advantage of. There are ways you can do that eg: commercials between shows not during shows.

Then how would the ABC be able to raise $1 billion to support all those services you’d like them to continue? You’d have to cut everything, including news, and including regional coverage. The ABC has to spend $200 million on transmitters, facilities and buildings alone, so even if they do attract a decent slice of the ad revenue, there won’t be enough money to put to air a single program.

So far we’ve worked out that you’d like the ABC to receive no government funding while strictly limiting their revenue stream by only putting commercials between shows. At the same time you’d like to ensure that regional content is protected from any cuts, on radio and on television.

What you haven’t considered is that:

  1. Australia’s television ad market is too small to actually support what you suggest. Seven, Nine and Ten are all struggling and are in various levels of debt.
  2. You’d be killing more than just the ABC - by privatising the ABC and letting them compete with the other networks, you’d instantly devalue ad time on Seven, Nine, Ten, SBS, Foxtel, the entire commercial radio industry and online, thus leading to many television networks, television studios, radio stations, and online websites to have to cut budgets and therefore jobs.
  3. The ABC would also lose jobs. Therefore, you have actually decreased the number of jobs in every single portion of the Australian media landscape, bar print. Congratulations.
  4. Further concentration of Australian media, as existing media monopolies gobble up what remains of the ABC.

Sorry, but killing the ABC would be an absolute disaster, and a tragedy, for Australia.

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My point is there has to be accountability for the product you’re producing if it is paid in full by the government. I’d be much more comfortable if limited advertising created a revenue stream that could subsidise what we have to pay. Obviously privatising the ABC is one extreme, doing nothing is the other extreme.

I and many other conservatives are not happy with the status quo and alternatives should be considered.

if and i mean IF the abc did go private or even commercialised would any of the shows change i mean look at the ratings over all its nearly always 2nd last yet it has good programming on it . maybe privating or commercializing abc might be a good thing and get more people to watch i know a lot of tax payers who dont watch abc and would like there taxes to go elsewhere . maybe abc should be a pay station where people who pay for it actually watch it other then the other way around anyways that’s my opinion so please don’t go hounding me down