TV History - Questions

Thanks @ron12.

The listings here for Sydney on 26th January show a description that matches episode 10, which is what I’m basing my doubts on. It’s possible this is wrong…? Or there was a difference between Sydney and Melbourne’s schedule? I will need to check some more examples from 1982 listings.

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I know you meant January, so thanks for that. You don’t have to say the name, but I was wondering what sort of publication was this from? Was it a weekly listing or just for the day of publication, and if a daily newspaper, was it morning or afternoon?

Here’s the listing from The Age Green Guide of January 21 1982 for the following Tuesday:
Tuesday January 26 1982

Scroll to the left to see the TV listings.

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Thanks for the link to those Melbourne listings. I did mean January, of course.

The page I posted was shared here in the Classic TV Guides thread, by @TelevisionAU I believe, and was credited to TV Week. I suppose it’s possible that schedules were changed after TV Week went to press, which would have been before The Age.

It surprises me a little that six episodes were shown the first week, followed by four, because the filming blocks on S&D ran 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 etc - and normally (though not always) a block reflects a week on air, or is intended to.

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Sorry I have come late to this thread. TBH I can’t offer any more insight than what has already been provided.

Seven showing three episodes to launch Sons And Daughters in 1982 was a move similar to what Ten (Sydney) did with Number 96 ten years earlier, which showed episodes one, two and three as a movie-length debut. In 1979, Prisoner also got a similar treatment with two episodes screening on debut.

Number 96 and Sons And Daughters, ten years apart, had a few similarities between them. Not least being cast member Pat McDonald, who featured during the entire run of both shows and also spoke the first and last words of dialogue in both shows.

Both shows also ran for a similar duration: Number 96 from March 1972 to 1977 and Sons And Daughters from January 1982 to 1987 (or early 1988 in some markets).

Sons And Daughters began as a stripped 30-minute series, and Number 96 originally did, too (although some stations aired it in one-hour blocks twice a week). By the end of their runs, both shows were reduced to weekly or twice weekly one-hour episodes.

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Thanks @TelevisionAU. Yes, episodes 1-3 were produced as a 90-minute pilot, and only split up for repeat runs or in some international markets. So I can understand that subsequent episodes were only 30 minutes long. I can only assume the listing in TV Week is an error. Or possibly more episodes were shown that first week in Sydney? That would have meant Melbourne and Sydney were out of sync for the whole year, unless Melbourne “caught up” somewhere. I will try to access listings for later in the year - but you tend to only find listings for one market or the other!

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I suspect more likely an error with the listing. Although Seven were different owners between Sydney and Melbourne in 1982 I imagine they would have synced up S&D in its early stages.

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When did it stop being acceptable to show breasts in promos for AO rated movies/shows?

when did it start?

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It probably ended around 93/94 I guess?
I’ve seen quite a few promos for movies from the 80s/early 90s with breasts being shown.

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I suppose they were only allowed to be shown after 8.30pm or thereabouts each night but TBH i can’t recall any of that being allowed but I assume u have tapes that show otherwise so I will take your word for it.

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My latest seeing of it was during the Midday movie on Seven.

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That would’ve also been around the time the OFLC (now known as the CB) updated their Guidelines and on a broader scale the Australian Govt’s Broadcast Act, IIRC about April/May in 1993, where the MA15+ classification was also introduced. From memory the debacle around The Silence of the Lambs was the instigator, later re-classified to MA.

Free TV has always had to follow the OFLC/CB Guidelines when applying regulatory framework to feature films broadcast on TV, as opposed to the TV Code itsself. At least the past 20 years or so.

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This is from October 1994, a promo for Nails (1992) on Channel Nine.

Should be timestamped, but it’s 2:48 for those wanting to have a squiz.

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That’s impressive, it’s what I love about MS, only takes a handful, but those in the know, be it history buffs or archiving tapes, we always get our answers and info :raised_hands:

You know who you are, keep up the great work!

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Here’s one that aired during Days of Our Lives in 1987:

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Was still acceptable in 2003.

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Back to this,

More caps of it being shown on analogue:





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Does anyone have any insight into ‘prototype’ Nine logo designs prior to Brian Sadgrove’s design being chosen? I’ve seen elsewhere online that Kerry Packer originally intended for Nine O&O’s to use their call signs alongside the 3x3 dot grid (much like regional affiliate stations) but later abandoned the plan in favour of a uniform dotty.

I’m keen to know whether these prototypes actually existed.

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I can’t believe it would’ve been, that has to either be an editing error or more likely the promo was classified M in an M or PG program or MA in an M or MA program but only as a “next” promo, where respective content levels are permitted (e.g.) breasts are deemed M-level, unless frequent and/or sexualised (i.e.) that movie “Striptease” - but that was one darkened fleeting shot/glimpse.

I think I recorded that promo around midnight-1am during an episode of The Outer Limits (M).

Networks probably don’t think it’s worthwhile to make M or MA classified promos anymore.

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