Today (2020-Feb 2025)

You guys certainly act like it.

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That’s the problem. You’re using the sort of headlines you think people will click on. I understand. You’re trying to make money. I believe the headline is misleading.

There may be important info in the story but once you read it, you feel betrayed by the headline.

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Great win for Today. Who would have thought only a few months ago.

The Sunrise fanboys are upset with the headline clearly.

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Today fanboys rejoice :heart_eyes:

Jokes aside. Today’s improvement is certainly a good thing for both Today and Sunrise. For the former, it means that they’re on the right direction and there’s no need for a bloodbath at the end of the year. For the latter, they will be (hopefully) motivated to up their game and improve the quality of their program.

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I can’t see any evidence of that. I think Sunrise is a terrible program.

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What about Today :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I am ambivalent. I haven’t regularly watched it since about 12 years ago.

Mate, this bickering needs to stop.
If you don’t like it here, no one is forcing you to post or read comments.
People provide feedback and you go on the attack and say you want to discuss things here but then you make out like everyone here is horrible. It’s getting tiresome in thread after thread.

It’s like you have scanners on the ready to pick up any comment and then bring out the trebuchets.

If anything it damages your sites brand because of this.

People are allowed to have opinions.

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To be fair when was the last time there was an overwhelming positive reaction to anything Rob or his team has posted?

You say its like Rob scans the place then goes on the attack. From what I can see it’s totally the other way around.

I remember back in the day when Studio 10 and Wake Up first launched people here loved having Rob on board and the forums own little insider but now that he isnt in what is considered “mainstream media” members are always on the attack.

I know it goes both ways but Rob sure does cop it here.

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There is certainly misunderstanding as to what is a negative and positive message here, so that should be clarified

Well it seems to happen across other forums as well.
Like I said, I listen to the podcasts - I enjoy them.

But I feel whenever someone does have a difference in opinion it turns into a bickering match and because it’s happened here so many times people know that regardless Robs opinion in his eyes is the right one and there’s never any half way or open dialogue.

I think that’s why there is now a stigma around it all.

As I said. I enjoy the podcasts. I think it’s one thing to have an opinion but there’s no point if it’s a defense service and there’s no actual conversation.

The above could have been “I see your point how it could look that way”
Instead it’s “no it’s not deceptive, you guys think you’re the bosses of the internet, let me run everything by you then”

It’s immature and not helpful.

I get what you’re saying but I see it as Rob defending himself against the constant negativity.

He’s probably at his wits end.

I see. All is good as long as I don’t defend myself. I understand now.

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To me It’s always been defense to be honest.

Never any proper discussion. It’s a snarky comment which is what inflamed it.

You don’t feed the people you disagree with, you engage, understand and in a constructive manner discuss why each side has their points,

I don’t see any others having this issue on the forums tbh

See there you go again, originally the comment Was about the title of the article. NOT you, you made it personal.

People can disagree, it’s how you respond to that is what the key is.

You could have just said, “yeah I guess it doesn’t tell the full story but I want viewers to my site”, and leave it at that?

I don’t see why you don’t get my point here?

Back on topic. Good to see Today winning over Sunrise in demos. It’s well deserved.

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Today’s doing such a good job, Sunrise is unwatchable nowdays.

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Maybe you are right. I think it’s best I delete my account and let you guys go for broke shitcanning everything I do. At least I won’t have to know about it then

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Don’t take it personally Rob, it’s just words on a website, everyone has an opinion. Do your thing and just keep your head above water.

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I haven’t gone shitcanning. I have said numerous times I enjoy the podcasts? What have I said negative about your site?

I’m trying to explain why from my perspective the reception here… and I’ve pointed out numerous times instances where words are thrown around and it’s not discussion.

It’s not personal Rob? Don’t take it that way.

Life is full of disagreement I face it daily in my work. But my way of managing it is discussing both sides rather than rushing off in a huff.

We are going off topic, I’m more than happy to have a chat with you in PM :slight_smile: