You guys certainly act like it.
Thatâs the problem. Youâre using the sort of headlines you think people will click on. I understand. Youâre trying to make money. I believe the headline is misleading.
There may be important info in the story but once you read it, you feel betrayed by the headline.
Great win for Today. Who would have thought only a few months ago.
The Sunrise fanboys are upset with the headline clearly.
Today fanboys rejoice ![]()
Jokes aside. Todayâs improvement is certainly a good thing for both Today and Sunrise. For the former, it means that theyâre on the right direction and thereâs no need for a bloodbath at the end of the year. For the latter, they will be (hopefully) motivated to up their game and improve the quality of their program.
I canât see any evidence of that. I think Sunrise is a terrible program.
What about Today ![]()
I am ambivalent. I havenât regularly watched it since about 12 years ago.
Mate, this bickering needs to stop.
If you donât like it here, no one is forcing you to post or read comments.
People provide feedback and you go on the attack and say you want to discuss things here but then you make out like everyone here is horrible. Itâs getting tiresome in thread after thread.
Itâs like you have scanners on the ready to pick up any comment and then bring out the trebuchets.
If anything it damages your sites brand because of this.
People are allowed to have opinions.
To be fair when was the last time there was an overwhelming positive reaction to anything Rob or his team has posted?
You say its like Rob scans the place then goes on the attack. From what I can see itâs totally the other way around.
I remember back in the day when Studio 10 and Wake Up first launched people here loved having Rob on board and the forums own little insider but now that he isnt in what is considered âmainstream mediaâ members are always on the attack.
I know it goes both ways but Rob sure does cop it here.
There is certainly misunderstanding as to what is a negative and positive message here, so that should be clarified
Well it seems to happen across other forums as well.
Like I said, I listen to the podcasts - I enjoy them.
But I feel whenever someone does have a difference in opinion it turns into a bickering match and because itâs happened here so many times people know that regardless Robs opinion in his eyes is the right one and thereâs never any half way or open dialogue.
I think thatâs why there is now a stigma around it all.
As I said. I enjoy the podcasts. I think itâs one thing to have an opinion but thereâs no point if itâs a defense service and thereâs no actual conversation.
The above could have been âI see your point how it could look that wayâ
Instead itâs âno itâs not deceptive, you guys think youâre the bosses of the internet, let me run everything by you thenâ
Itâs immature and not helpful.
I get what youâre saying but I see it as Rob defending himself against the constant negativity.
Heâs probably at his wits end.
I see. All is good as long as I donât defend myself. I understand now.
To me Itâs always been defense to be honest.
Never any proper discussion. Itâs a snarky comment which is what inflamed it.
You donât feed the people you disagree with, you engage, understand and in a constructive manner discuss why each side has their points,
I donât see any others having this issue on the forums tbh
See there you go again, originally the comment Was about the title of the article. NOT you, you made it personal.
People can disagree, itâs how you respond to that is what the key is.
You could have just said, âyeah I guess it doesnât tell the full story but I want viewers to my siteâ, and leave it at that?
I donât see why you donât get my point here?
Back on topic. Good to see Today winning over Sunrise in demos. Itâs well deserved.
Todayâs doing such a good job, Sunrise is unwatchable nowdays.
Maybe you are right. I think itâs best I delete my account and let you guys go for broke shitcanning everything I do. At least I wonât have to know about it then
Donât take it personally Rob, itâs just words on a website, everyone has an opinion. Do your thing and just keep your head above water.
I havenât gone shitcanning. I have said numerous times I enjoy the podcasts? What have I said negative about your site?
Iâm trying to explain why from my perspective the reception here⌠and Iâve pointed out numerous times instances where words are thrown around and itâs not discussion.
Itâs not personal Rob? Donât take it that way.
Life is full of disagreement I face it daily in my work. But my way of managing it is discussing both sides rather than rushing off in a huff.
We are going off topic, Iâm more than happy to have a chat with you in PM 