Sunday 28 January 2024

So whats the point in this change? We know 7 News will smash 9 News everynight now. Just a bigger gap now…

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Nothing changes for the networks or their customers (being advertisers). This is all about removing transparency and the ability of media commentators and people like us to pass judgement.

And looking at this first set of figures they have been rather successful given how pointless these numbers are.

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Might as well shut this forum down, honestly.

This data isn’t for us and it doesn’t serve us in any way.

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The scenario would be. Social Media picks up on ratings and posts “Big Brother only had 350,000 for its launch last night”. When in reality that was the 5-city number, does not include BVOD and an average over the broadcast. Now the headline number presented is peak audience, national audience and with some on-line viewers added as well. It’s about public perception.

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I think we all know why this happened; 10 were too embarrassed about those Gladiators numbers so they had Grant infiltrate OzTam and muck up the ratings system to puff up Deal or No Deal before it becomes another victim of their periodical evening schedule shuffling.

David Gordon, you sly dog. It all makes sense now. :smirk:

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The movers can’t come till next Wednesday

Two shows from the multi-channels made the list by the looks of it:

17th place was 7Mate’s showing of Session 2 of the Cricket (as the main channel airing of Session 2 was in 4th place), and 7Mate’s Pearl Harbour coming in 30th place.

Just odd they didn’t code it as 7Mate though. It was coded simply as Seven.

The forum can always survive on speculation about the next relaunch, why presenters are away, Rob Brough’s winks, and the next reality flop :laughing:.

Then comes the next season of The Block :laughing:.

Are they trying to make it look like no one’s watching the multichannel’s :laughing:

The top rated programs are listed via their network rather than their channel - same as OzTAM top 20; only the multichannel list showed the actual channel. Check back to when the midyear Ashes were on (18 June) and you will see them listed in the top 20 under Nine.

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Does anyone know if we still get 7-day and 28-day consolidated data?

7-day data is provided.

This was posted today

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Cheers, thanks for all your hard work with processing the new system and data reporting :+1:.

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I believe the networks are only going to recieve the old reports for about the next 6 months as a transition period.

Quite heated conversations yesterday i hear as people tried to figure out who signed off on this change.

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Good. Hopefully it is reversed, especially if the classic report will only be available for a certain period.

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Glass half full perspective, it’s actually quite interesting that we can now discuss “retention” numbers of a show. Audience/reach x 100.

Example random sampling:

40.45% retention for Gladiators
42.41% retention for 10 news first 6pm
44.51% retention for Aus Open final
54.40% retention for Seven News
61.57% retention for Cricket session 2
63.88% retention for ABC news
66.26% retention for Nine News
69.34% retention for Tennis final presentation

So whilst we might not like the new reports, there’s still data that’s worth discussing. If we can agree on what % rate deems a successful show we now get to understand audience behaviour at a lower level.

Breakfast is also a great example, and expected lower % across the board given the nature of the shows. Retention below:

36.21% - Sunrise
35.55% - Today
34.28% - ABC

They’ve taken away data points that’s for sure, but we now have other metrics we can discuss and see a picture over time.

Whilst it’s not a 1:1 relationship for each individual viewer, it is a high level indicator of how “sticky” a tv show is.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on the data above?

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I mentioned yesterday that the inclusion of reach is definitely interesting but it is no where near as useful as capital city and network % numbers were.
There is no reason they couldn’t adjust the existing “Total TV” chart to include reach in it.

This change is a huge step backward.

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I also find that with late timing of the data release, the moment has passed. People are interested in TV ratings but not at lunch time the next day.

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To be fair Breakfast TV is probably the one area where reach is a fairer measure as people are tuning in and out throughout the morning in line with their own morning routine with very few watching the entire show. 1 minute reach is not giving as useful data as say a 5 minute reach would though.

Primetime wise the national TV average is certainly the fairer figure, and despite all the “world first” stuff from OzTam most other countries already reported a national figure too and the UK has certainly included BVOD for a couple of years now.

Losing the city breakdown though is dumb - when how statistics are reported is changed to include less information there is something they’re trying to hide. Considering how historic the Sydney v Melbourne markets have been important it is baffling to exclude that. Will it remain in the officials a week later?

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Total TV Consolidated 7 Days

Total TV Consolidated 7 Top 30 Programs Total People

Rank Description Network Reach Average BVOD
1 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL Nine 4,779,000 2,135,000 319,000
2 SEVEN NEWS – SUN Seven 2,553,000 1,384,000 34,000
3 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRE MATCH Nine 2,396,000 1,035,000 117,000
4 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRESENTATION Nine 2,200,000 791,000 132,000
5 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S1 Seven 1,889,000 851,000 0
6 THE 1% CLUB (R) Seven 1,589,000 743,000 18,000
7 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 Seven 1,525,000 1,002,000 0
8 MUSTER DOGS-EV ABC 1,369,000 907,000 101,000
9 9NEWS SUNDAY Nine 1,354,000 904,000 54,000
10 ABC NEWS SUNDAY-EV ABC 1,322,000 808,000 23,000
11 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 TEA Seven 1,238,000 895,000 0
12 SEVEN’S CRICKET: T20 INT: AUS V SA WOMEN’S Seven 1,111,000 251,000 0
13 WEEKEND SUNRISE – SUN Seven 1,044,000 377,000 17,000
14 ABC NEWS-PM ABC 1,039,000 38,000 2,000
15 M- JIMMY BARNES: WORKING CLASS BOY Seven 925,000 189,000 5,000
16 RBT Nine 910,000 457,000 24,000
17 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 PRE GA Seven 880,000 387,000 0
18 WEEKEND TODAY – SUNDAY Nine 861,000 309,000 22,000
19 TOTAL CONTROL-EV ABC 831,000 547,000 95,000
20 7NEWS SPOTLIGHT – SUMMER Seven 822,000 279,000 7,000
21 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -WOMEN’S DOUBLES FINAL Nine 800,000 226,000 14,000
22 GLADIATORS – GRAND FINALE 10 777,000 333,000 25,000
23 THE SUNDAY PROJECT 10 734,000 270,000 10,000
24 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 MUL Seven 728,000 425,000 0
25 10 NEWS FIRST SUN 10 723,000 314,000 9,000
26 GRAND DESIGNS TRANSFORMATIONS-ENCORE ABC 720,000 261,000 4,000
27 WEEKEND BREAKFAST-AM ABC 665,000 228,000 11,000
28 WEEKEND SUNRISE – SUN – EARLY Seven 563,000 251,000 11,000
29 M- PEARL HARBOR-PM Seven 555,000 101,000 2,000
30 9NEWS FIRST AT FIVE Nine 541,000 320,000 19,000

Total TV Consolidated 7 Top 30 Programs 25-54

Rank Description Network Reach Average BVOD
1 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL Nine 1,959,000 899,000 203,000
2 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRE MATCH Nine 889,000 400,000 72,000
3 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRESENTATION Nine 886,000 319,000 83,000
4 SEVEN NEWS – SUN Seven 700,000 352,000 18,000
5 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S1 Seven 585,000 277,000 0
6 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 Seven 501,000 369,000 0
7 THE 1% CLUB (R) Seven 455,000 223,000 10,000
8 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 TEA Seven 420,000 343,000 0
9 9NEWS SUNDAY Nine 395,000 244,000 30,000
10 GLADIATORS – GRAND FINALE 10 344,000 163,000 18,000
11 WEEKEND TODAY – SUNDAY Nine 299,000 99,000 13,000
12 WEEKEND SUNRISE – SUN Seven 295,000 95,000 10,000
13 MUSTER DOGS-EV ABC 285,000 185,000 48,000
14 SEVEN’S CRICKET: T20 INT: AUS V SA WOMEN’S Seven 276,000 61,000 0
15 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 MUL Seven 270,000 165,000 0
16 THE SUNDAY PROJECT 10 268,000 109,000 6,000
17 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 PRE GA Seven 266,000 115,000 0
18 ABC NEWS-PM ABC 262,000 10,000 1,000
19 RBT Nine 255,000 122,000 14,000
20 M- JIMMY BARNES: WORKING CLASS BOY Seven 254,000 52,000 3,000
21 7NEWS SPOTLIGHT – SUMMER Seven 244,000 99,000 4,000
22 ABC NEWS SUNDAY-EV ABC 227,000 129,000 11,000
23 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -WOMEN’S DOUBLES FINAL Nine 223,000 67,000 8,000
24 FOOTBALL: AFC ASIAN CUP 10 197,000 83,000 12,000
25 10 NEWS FIRST SUN 10 187,000 84,000 5,000
26 WEEKEND BREAKFAST-AM ABC 182,000 60,000 6,000
27 M- PEARL HARBOR-PM Seven 174,000 29,000 1,000
28 TOTAL CONTROL-EV ABC 173,000 103,000 43,000
29 ALL 4 ADVENTURE 10 166,000 86,000 12,000
30 WEEKEND SUNRISE – SUN – EARLY Seven 143,000 61,000 6,000

Total TV Consolidated 7 Top 30 Programs 16-39

Rank Description Network Reach Average BVOD
1 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL Nine 1,038,000 468,000 137,000
2 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRE MATCH Nine 454,000 193,000 44,000
3 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRESENTATION Nine 441,000 147,000 56,000
4 SEVEN NEWS – SUN Seven 258,000 120,000 9,000
5 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S1 Seven 247,000 103,000 0
6 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 Seven 200,000 147,000 0
7 9NEWS SUNDAY Nine 176,000 108,000 15,000
8 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 TEA Seven 170,000 138,000 0
9 THE 1% CLUB (R) Seven 159,000 83,000 5,000
10 GLADIATORS – GRAND FINALE 10 144,000 72,000 10,000
11 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 MUL Seven 128,000 80,000 0
12 MUSTER DOGS-EV ABC 108,000 67,000 25,000
13 SEVEN’S CRICKET: T20 INT: AUS V SA WOMEN’S Seven 107,000 23,000 0
14 WEEKEND TODAY – SUNDAY Nine 104,000 32,000 6,000
15 RBT Nine 104,000 49,000 7,000
16 THE SUNDAY PROJECT 10 102,000 38,000 3,000
17 FOOTBALL: AFC ASIAN CUP 10 100,000 46,000 9,000
18 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -WOMEN’S DOUBLES FINAL Nine 100,000 26,000 4,000
19 ABC NEWS-PM ABC 93,000 3,000 1,000
20 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 PRE GA Seven 87,000 40,000 0
21 WEEKEND SUNRISE – SUN Seven 82,000 25,000 4,000
22 M- JIMMY BARNES: WORKING CLASS BOY Seven 78,000 14,000 1,000
23 7NEWS SPOTLIGHT – SUMMER Seven 76,000 27,000 2,000
24 ABC NEWS SUNDAY-EV ABC 75,000 41,000 6,000
25 ALL 4 ADVENTURE 10 67,000 33,000 6,000
26 10 NEWS FIRST SUN 10 67,000 32,000 2,000
27 TOTAL CONTROL-EV ABC 65,000 42,000 22,000
28 WEEKEND BREAKFAST-AM ABC 62,000 18,000 3,000
29 9NEWS FIRST AT FIVE Nine 61,000 34,000 6,000
30 RAGE-LE ABC 60,000 5,000 0

Total TV Consolidated 7 Top 30 Programs Grocery Shoppers

Rank Description Network Reach Average BVOD
1 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL Nine 3,683,000 1,679,000 244,000
2 SEVEN NEWS – SUN Seven 1,965,000 1,095,000 27,000
3 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRE MATCH Nine 1,857,000 814,000 91,000
4 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -MEN’S FINAL -PRESENTATION Nine 1,744,000 623,000 101,000
5 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S1 Seven 1,444,000 666,000 0
6 THE 1% CLUB (R) Seven 1,226,000 570,000 14,000
7 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 Seven 1,165,000 766,000 0
8 MUSTER DOGS-EV ABC 1,112,000 740,000 80,000
9 ABC NEWS SUNDAY-EV ABC 1,076,000 669,000 18,000
10 9NEWS SUNDAY Nine 1,072,000 716,000 43,000
11 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 TEA Seven 945,000 678,000 0
12 SEVEN’S CRICKET: T20 INT: AUS V SA WOMEN’S Seven 873,000 196,000 0
13 ABC NEWS-PM ABC 840,000 31,000 2,000
14 WEEKEND SUNRISE – SUN Seven 836,000 306,000 14,000
15 M- JIMMY BARNES: WORKING CLASS BOY Seven 737,000 153,000 4,000
16 RBT Nine 733,000 370,000 19,000
17 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 PRE GA Seven 694,000 302,000 0
18 TOTAL CONTROL-EV ABC 688,000 457,000 76,000
19 WEEKEND TODAY – SUNDAY Nine 685,000 250,000 18,000
20 2024 AUSTRALIAN OPEN D15 -WOMEN’S DOUBLES FINAL Nine 652,000 187,000 11,000
21 7NEWS SPOTLIGHT – SUMMER Seven 641,000 217,000 5,000
22 GRAND DESIGNS TRANSFORMATIONS-ENCORE ABC 597,000 218,000 3,000
23 10 NEWS FIRST SUN 10 567,000 251,000 8,000
24 THE SUNDAY PROJECT 10 557,000 209,000 8,000
25 WEEKEND BREAKFAST-AM ABC 551,000 192,000 9,000
26 GLADIATORS – GRAND FINALE 10 539,000 227,000 21,000
27 SEVEN’S CRICKET: SECOND TEST – AUSTRALIA V WEST INDIES D4 S2 MUL Seven 535,000 318,000 0
28 M- PEARL HARBOR-PM Seven 445,000 79,000 2,000
29 WEEKEND SUNRISE – SUN – EARLY Seven 441,000 198,000 9,000
30 9NEWS FIRST AT FIVE Nine 435,000 260,000 15,000