And have done so since the CBN-CWN days.
Yeah, so wouldn’t be part of any Canberra bulletin.
Well some stories on WIN for example from Orange/Dubbo would make it to the Canberra bulletin and vice versa if the story is generic enough not that it should but happening more and more frequently.
I’d like to see the full 30.minute bulletins remain for as long as possible but yes I would say eventually they won’t be deemed viable.
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Interesting that this topic has come up again.
If Seven (or someone else) started a proper new bulletin in Canberra they’d be building it up from scratch and trying to drum up promotion/awareness to build and sustain a new nightly audience base which wouldn’t just cross over from the Sydney bulletin it would be replacing.
Given the cost and effort involved, it wouldn’t work, where TV viewership is down generally from where it was decades ago when they previously tried. Even if you look at something like say 7Tas, trying to build something like that up from scratch today wouldn’t make sense if it didn’t already exist.
Honestly watching the Sydney news at 6pm and then switching over to the ABC to watch the existing ACT bulletin at 7pm already satisfies any existing TV news viewers, and people in Canberra are now well adjusted to getting local news via the web or means other than TV.
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I’d disagree with that - more like some people just don’t get local news at all or what they do get is rehashed media releases from some of the online sources. Not good for accountability or local democracy.
You’re misunderstanding the crux of what I said - namely, that if there were a new local news service in Canberra, hardly anyone would watch it (it would probably get axed just like the last one Prime tried to launch in 2001)
The recent ACT election and the media coverage of that which was shared extensively (including the opposition leader flipping off a journalist which made national headlines) shows that we don’t need our news condensed into a 6pm bulletin for the sake of ‘local democracy’.
I agree that there are different ways of delivering local news in this day and age apart from just a traditional bulletin (though I’m still not convinced that beefed up local tv content in some form couldn’t play a decent part). The bigger problem is what Canberra does have in terms of local journalism is pretty dire for its population size. The Elisabeth Lee incident was an isolated quirky incident that made good viral content. While it may have offered some insight into her suitability as leader, it was a once off and hardly decent analysis or coverage of the ACT election or the daily business of government and territory issues.
In actual viewer figures, I wouldn’t think there is much in it (between CBN7 at 6pm and NEW10 at 5pm). Ten news 5pm in Perth? Can’t be a lot more than 20k viewers? I’ll brace for the stampede of corrections.
I understand your point, but people in Canberra do currently watch Channel 7 at 6pm, right? So you would retain those viewers if it were replaced by a decent 7Tas style bulletin, I would have thought.
Not really starting from scratch, as the studios are there in Canberra and pump out x5 bulletins per day. Yes, capacity might be a problem. But for argument’s sake, there is a base of viewers on a top network and the studios/some presenters and production staff.
The local news would be promoted during other shows too, right? You wouldn’t have to put up posters at the local shops begging for viewers.
The main point I take from you is would a new bulletin attract enough additional viewers to be worth the outlay? Probably not in the short term, but live and events TV is keeping network TV afloat. Plus, it’s interesting to muse, no?
This is the point. People are already watching Seven without them having to put in the effort and money to create a new bulletin. It wouldn’t make financial sense to create a new bulletin to just retain the same audience they have (at the end of it you’re losing money from that equation). You’d have to actually grow the viewership by enough margin to offset the additional cost, which would not happen.
No commercial TV station makes enough profit in Canberra to justify a live bulletin, we know that from the many that have been axed in the past. The ABC gets away with it being taxpayer funded.
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isn’t that through necessity rather than preference.
Are people really going to choose a Sydney bulletin full of a lot of irrelevant Sydney-centric news then an ABC bulletin with hardly any ACT news… over a single, properly done local newshour? I’d doubt it.
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Sydney news isn’t entirely irrelevant and it’s been a part of Canberra TV for a very long time. 7 News Sydney is popular enough in the ratings as-is. It’s not just necessity, actually among younger audiences it’s not a necessity to watch TV at all.
It’s not going to be worth the trouble or finances to create and sustain a new, ‘properly done’ local news hour, as is already well established. There won’t be enough enthusiasm or engagement with it to build it up and sustain it.
The ABC News produced in Canberra is actually highly regarded and has built a long standing reputation and goodwill in the community over decades which no new bulletin is likely to match
doesn’t change the fact that like most ABC bulletins it is light on local news.
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That’s actually not a fact, it’s an opinion. The ABC bulletin actually has plenty of local news for what is a small and boring city.
It’s fact by every measurement that ABC TV News is light on local news.
For example last night’s ABC News ACT:
Headlines: NSW story, National story, Local story, National story, Local sport
1: NSW/National story
2: National story
3: World story
4: Local story
5: National story
6: National story
7: National story (follow from previous)
8: National VO
9: NSW/National story
10: National story
11: National finance report
12: National sport VO
13: Local sport story
14: Weather
now that’s opinion.
If you wouldn’t watch a properly made local news service that’s fine, but I can see no reason why that wouldn’t be a better option in theory than relaying Sydney news.
Seeing as 7 is the only metro network that owns it’s ACT station (for now) and has local infrastructure, a hypothetical 7 News Canberra bulletin could only be seen as a good thing for the industry and the community.
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There doesn’t seem to be the need or demand for another local news in Canberra.
Interesting these calls if support are from people who don’t even live there.
Networks aren’t charities. If there is support there they’ll give it a go but they’re not going to throw millions at something in the hope it’ll catch on. Wrong era for that.
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Just as much need as Sydney or Melbourne or anywhere.
Everyone was up in arms when the NT’s last bulletin got axed, but there seems to be this apathy towards the ACT.
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I will saying in these terms “what you think you never had, you never miss” - in other words, its like all business, if there arent the numbers to justify it, it wont happen. I think at least in the short term the two most likely scenarios are either maintain the current arrangement or have a pre-recorded segment with the Sydney news presenter throw to the local news with something like “heres your local news” - nothing sophisticated and wont even show signs of being a proper nightly recording - most likely last segment before the sport.
There is not really any likelihood of Seven introducing a full Canberra news service unless, the government rushes through legislation forcing networks to provide a local bulletin before the impending sale of SCA’s Ten assets or as an alternative before Nine and WIN come under common ownership. However, I dont think either side of politics will go down this path
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That was because of the remoteness of the NT to other major capital cities. In my opinion, given the geographical distance between Brisbane and Townsville, I believe that Far North QLD should of had 3 locally produced national news bulletins that could easily be screened across the NT. I also believe that the remote regions of NSW and western sections of Victoria and QLD should receive Adelaide bulletins due it being the closest state capital city
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