Seven News (Regional Vic/NSW/ACT/WA) (2015-Feb 2025)

Noodle updates from tonight :slight_smile:

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Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t prime 7 being played out at mediahub, or is that only for the WIN markets and ABC?

It was moved to TBS MediaCloud a few months ago, where SBS is.

if they are VJ’s maybe they don’t have the time, but certainly in most newsrooms they work in crews of cammo and journo they would have time, i have recently left the industry and journos i have worked with are always on the phone and twitter, social media is massive for newsrooms these days. Journos would heaps of time to get 60 secs of vision (if sent). If they don’t more than happy to guide them on where they are wasting time. ( background i have worked with alot of journalists some are very good at their job, others are very time poor ) and i think all northern NSW newsrooms have later deadlines than 3pm.

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They sure can. For example, it was very common for networks to do a tape swap when I was in news. At major news conferences ABC would give Ten their tapes to run off a copy and vice versa. Seven would swap with Nine. Everyone gets twice the footage.

May not be so common to share resources these days; but it was definitely a thing.

Seriously, what makes you think Seven will do a metro bulletin in Canberra?
It won’t happen period.
Last time that occurred, ratings dropped.

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:roll_eyes::roll_eyes: No, just no.
Let’s not start this again. Scroll up to post 1585 and read on from there.

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^ This

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I think a 30 minute bulletin is a good possibility with a truncated Sydney news at 630

  • seven uses this format to great success across 10+ markets already, 8 of which are smaller than Canberra

  • Local news is increasingly the only format that is FTA exclusive that steamers are Not in the business of - future proofing

  • local news at 6 is dominantly the #1 show night after night, market by market

  • seven CEO has stated they will be looking to go into new markets with local news, inspired by Primes local news

  • seven has large staff, studios, set, journalists, crew, facilites, set up in Canberra already - an additional 30 minute bulletin could be added for incremental cost

  • Canberra is the 2nd largest TV market Seven doesn’t have local news in after Newcastle

  • Canberra TV market is larger than 8 markets seven finds it financially sound to run local News in already

  • as Seven looks to Canberra for legislation favors in the future to help FTA, having a local bulletin in Canberra could win them significant brownie points with law makers

  • Canberra demos over index in high income / high spending households which advertisers love

These are some arguments in the pros column

Of course there are arguments in the cons column too

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Yes, here we go again, people with rose coloured glasses thinking in the analogue past.

Lots of Canberra people prefer to watch Sydney news, being many are are in Sydney visiting all the time, and many are from there.

Local News needs in Canberra are already well served by the ABC and to a lesser extent on WIN.
Canberra will never get the same style of metro presentation in a local commercial news bulletin ever again. The last being Capital Eyewitness News, long, long gone, sadly. So why would Seven replace the existing metro bulletin which rates well with a shoddy half rater? Better just to insert a 5 minute local ACT window in the metro bulletin with the metro bulletin looking after the big national, international and NSW state stories which are also of relevance to surrounding areas of the ACT.

And as Prime studios are only SD, I cant see that facility being upgraded to HD. The land is worth more to property developers now. It will only be a matter of time that all Prime News production will move to Seven Sydney, Melbourne and possibly Perth. And don’t think 7QLD is a model that Seven will follow for Prime, far from it. Why Seven would break something in the Prime area that mostly works now is beyond me.

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Savage there. :grin:

Jokes aside, am I expecting another “post every 1 hour” once more.

There’s no way the Prime Canberra studios will be around for much longer.
Back in 2019 when SWM first attempted to acquire Prime Media, the plan being floated around at the time, was to centralise all of Prime’s Canberra news operations to Sydney.
The regional news was going to be presented from the (now defunct) Facebook Watch news set.
I’m confident we’ll see a centralisation of Prime News, towards the end of the year when 7’s news operations relocate to Eveleigh.

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Agree. Seems more than likely

Yes, here we go again, people with rose coloured glasses thinking in the analogue past.

As pointed out, there are both pros and cons in the argument for a 30 minute local news at 6 in Canberra.

Lots of Canberra people prefer to watch Sydney news, being many are are in Sydney visiting all the time, and many are from there.

True, and lots of people would prefer a local news at 6. Only residents with fixed Canberra address are on the Oztam panel. People who live between two cities are not counted in ratings.

Canberra will never get the same style of metro presentation in a local commercial news bulletin ever again.

I don’t think anyone expects that. 7 News Cairns and 7 News Gold Coast would be more the yardstick I would think.

why would Seven replace the existing metro bulletin which rates well with a shoddy half rater?

Possible arguments in my post above. It could rate less, equal or more. Same goes for anytime a new show is putin an existing show timeslot. Question is do the possible benefits outweigh possible risk.

Better just to insert a 5 minute local ACT window in the metro bulletin with the metro bulletin looking after the big national, international and NSW state stories which are also of relevance to surrounding areas of the ACT.

Neither Seven, nor Nine, nor 10 do this ANYWHERE in Australia in evening news. This one is unlikely.

And don’t think 7QLD is a model that Seven will follow for Prime, far from it. Why Seven would break something in the Prime area that mostly works now is beyond me.

Beyond you? Seven already does it in 8 markets - all smaller than Canberra. It’s not that far fetched an idea.

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I know that for the Covid pressers each network would film a different aspect of the pc. For example, 9 and ABC might do tight shots of the speaker, 7 might do a wide angle with the Auslan interpreter and 10 would do cutaways. To top it off, the wide shot with Auslan was generally the one used by all networks for their social media live streams, so all networks were receiving the same feed live.

Other stories would often share their footage as well. If 9 and 7 were interviewing the same talent for a story, one might film the head on and the other would pick up cutaways to save doing it after the interview.

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I know that Nine and Seven are completely different organisations, but Nine kept local production of NBN News in Newcastle despite owning NBN for several years before they even began planning their new North Sydney HQ.

Seven may well have planned a contingency to have space for Prime7 at Eveleigh if they ever acquired it (which they now have). But it would be a big loss for regional television if their regional hub in Canberra ceased to exist and everything was moved to Sydney. An NBN-style relocation would be preferable.

On a separate note I’ve had a completely bonkers idea but I’ll say it anyway: WIN centralised all their local news to a single regional hub in Wollongong, could the Sunshine Coast studios be the destination for Prime7 bulletins as opposed to Sydney?

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Seems a good idea in theory.

You’ve got to imagine , office space, salaries, overheads and costs are lower in Maroochydore than Sydney.

Also - they clearly have the knowledge and systems and know how in place to put together 6 taped and 1 live bulletins. They do it very well.

Could make sense to add staff to the existing “news hub” pipeline they have there to pump more out - rather than try to duplicate those complex systems in Sydney - to a newsroom that has no knowledge on how to put together 6 bulletins at once

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Maroochydore managed to make pre-recorded regions’ stories relevant and as close as updated as they could, without the need of recording the entire segment in 1 take which Prime 7 News does outside the North Coast. I will let new MS users to scroll up and look for relevant threads to know what I am saying.

I don’t think much will change at least not immediately or even this year. Prime’s news is working fine at the moment. Sunshine Coast doing another 4 or so bulletins doesn’t seem to be practical even if they have the skills to put together multiple bulletins. Upgraading to HD is a lot cheaper now then it ever has been.

There will have to be some change in about three months time when the higher local content rules should start to be enforced (though as always the ACMA are often happy to delay rules).

Most notable is that there will have to be some Mildura specific content (likely updates) due to the trigger event there, and all other non-full news markets will need slightly more updates, or some other means of hitting the increased minutes of local content needed.

Reaching local content requirements with more news updates means taking time out of ad breaks to slot in news updates, while you can sell advertising in a news bulletin. There’s a cost to this either way.

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