HD Broadcasting

I thought I read it somewhere that a new channel and HD coming this year.

I forgot to check and won’t be home until it’s too late - Is the F1 in HD on SC ONE?

Yes it is - I am just posting the images in the Ten Sport topic now :grinning: Not as good as the MPEG4 on TENHD but better than nothing.

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Imparja DVB-S2 MPEG-4 at a steady 6.5 Mbit since play started


WIN DVB-T MPEG-4 with variable bitrate from 6.0 Mbit to 8.0 Mbit


Imparja’s looks slightly better.

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9HD Melbourne, 4.5Mbps average

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When I posted a while back that it was silly of Nine to air 9HD in a format which most Australians couldn’t reach, I was told that my TV was old, everyone can get it it, there’s no problem…blah blah blah.

Can one of these people now please explain to me 7Flix’s dire, woeful ratings? 9Life almost doubles its ratings (and 9Life shows absolute crap).

If the total pool of television viewers is delivering half the viewers for 7Flix, then it indicates potentially up to half of Australians are unable to reach 7Flix

Do those people now agree with me that the decision made no commercial sense?

When I posted a while back that it was silly of Nine to air 9HD in a format which most Australians couldn’t reach, I was told that my TV was old, everyone can get it it, there’s no problem…blah blah blah.

Can one of these people now please explain to me 7Flix’s dire, woeful ratings? 9Life almost doubles its ratings (and 9Life shows absolute crap).

If the total pool of television viewers is delivering half the viewers for 7Flix, then it indicates potentially up to half of Australians are unable to reach 7Flix

Do those people now agree with me that the decision made no commercial sense?

I’d say 7Flix ratings are due to programming. Old movies dragged out to 2.5 to 3 hours with commercials. Odd positioning (pink / orange logo screams female) and they promoted as a Movie channel but already they have series at 830

It’s been a messy set up from the start. The low rating are programming / positioning rated. Some nights it’s equaled what 9Life gets - so I don’t think it has to do with technology. Also it’s not on Foxtel yet - that is 30% of homes.

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You and Seven are both wrong.

Absolutely clearly there is not enough MPEG-4 support out there in the public, there are still TVs sold today that don’t support it - let alone the installed base.

For all viewers Nine traded Gem in HD for an extra channel of content. And as a bonus they finally restored the ability to watch their main channel in HD. Yes, in MPEG-4, but if you are in the minority that care about HD, it is a small investment to get a set top box. If you don’t want to, you just got the same Gem HD for Life trade everyone else got.

Seven on the other hand locked content for a mainstream audience behind MPEG-4, including taking programming from their other channels to fill it - Seven took content from people and Nine didn’t.

The figures for Life in WIN areas will be good for distinguishing content and format.

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Then I am correct. Horribly stupid decision from Seven (who obviously didn’t understand the impact MPEG-4 had on people’s ability to access 90).

Like I said though, 9Life is full of shit. No way 7flix has worse content than that channel.

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I think 7flix’s problem is that it’s not offering anything that Seven hasn’t already been offering across 7, 7mate or 7two. It’s just thinning out the same content, whereas 9Life is largely content (as bad as it might be) that is not available across any of Nine’s other channels. It is an actual alternative. 7flix is just more of the same.

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9Life almost mirrors LifeStyle on Foxtel. How does LifeStyle rate?

It is the number 2 rated channel on Foxtel (after FOX8) usually.

If you include the +2 and the food and you version the total is more than double that of FOX 8.

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So you could argue that genre has got success written all over it. Probably doesn’t appeal to most here, but then again we’re mostly blokes, aren’t we? Women froth at the mouth over this stuff.

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I am male, work in real estate and very rarely watch anything other than 9Life. It’s on point for me.

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No. Not correct. Your original argument was about missing out on something with the launch of 9HD. You don’t miss out on anything as 9 simulcast in SD.

Separately, If you want 7flix (which ALL my TVs receive without problems and one of these sets is a few years old) you need to buy a new TV or a Set Top Box. But you are not really missing out on anything there as I haven’t watched a thing on 7flix as nothing on that channel interests me.

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…and even if you didn’t want to go as far as buying a new TV, surely a cheap MPEG4-capable set top box and a HDMI cable (if you don’t have a TV that has HDMI inputs in 2016 it’s probably time to upgrade that TV!) would do the trick?

Hotel Impossible is easily my new favourite show on FTA. Doesn’t change the fact it’s on a schedule designed to appeal to women.

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It’s just like the uptake of HD back in the late 2000’s. Exclusive content on HD gave people a reason to buy HD compatible TVs. They would buy new TVs/receivers in order to see the content, which meant that retailers were basically only able to sell HD TVs due to market demand, and we’re now that the point where just about every TV in the country can receive MPEG-2 HD.

It’s in the best interests of the networks for the market to get to a point where they’re able to only broadcast in MPEG-4 as it will allow them to have more channels and at better quality. The best way to speed this up to start broadcasting some channels in MPEG-4, so that people have a reason to get MPEG-4 compatible TVs (or set top boxes). It might be slow, and 7flix isn’t going to acheive it alone, but it will be quicker than if they did nothing.

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Well said!

Just like the transition from analogue to digital TV, I do believe that additional channels with unique content will most likely be the main way, if not the only way that the average viewer at home will consider upgrading to MPEG4-capable TVs and set top boxes.

Of course, it will be some time before we have every channel only broadcasting in MPEG4. It took twelve years for the entire country to switch to switch off analogue and I daresay that a similar public awareness campaign and a gradual switch from MPEG2 to MPEG4 might be required.

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