As a Victorian that lives somewhere that has amenities open after 5pm, this is a nonsense.
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Hopefully not in my opinion. In fact living in Victoria I would love to see UTC+10 permanently. Sometimes it is 9:00pm and still light in the peak of Summer (we are on the western side of the eastern states so the sun sets later) so I would like to see it dark earlier.
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9pm much more useful light than 3am. Closer to 10pm and it’s still light enough to see here.
I think it could be good for the Olympics if they can have it, even if it’s just a temporary thing. Melbourne changed the dates of theirs for the Commonwealth Games which ended up being adopted permanently and got all the DLS observing states to line up their dates.
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Problem is the Olympic Games are in JULY when there is no daylight savings anyway; so the connection to the Games is pretty tenuous.
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Ahhh, hadn’t actually read it (yeah, yeah, I know. I was one of them) so that doesn’t really make much sense at all then.
It’s now that time of year when I want DST to end. The mornings are fairly dark until about 0700 here now, especially if cloudy. I am near the centre of the UTC+10 (+1) timezone which is centred on 150 degrees East. I pity those at the western extremity of the time zone who see sunrises even later (Portland VIC comes to mind). Queenstown NZ is also near the western edge of its timezone and sees lots of late sunrises.
It’s ridiculous when sunrises are as late or even later than in midwinter, as is the case by the end of March here.
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Agree that DST goes for a bit too long. It should really finish this weekend.
What do you need sun before 6am for? Go back to bed.
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I am happy to be on UTC+8 all year round in Western Australia
In the US they want it all year round which means dark winter mornings and an extra hour of exercise at night.
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Bzzzt! Wrong answer. It goes for seven or eight months in most countries in the Northern Hemisphere.
I think it ends at the right time. It needs to start earlier though. Maybe two weeks earlier.
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It’s just an opinion.
And stop being a smart arse and thinking your opinion is the only one that matters.
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Just having some fun. Isn’t that allowed any more? 
Many of us in the boondocks are early risers! You should see the conga line of cars out of Bungendore towards Canberra as early as 0500. I can’t use my high beam much when travelling towards Braidwood before 0600- it’s just a sea of headlights from the oncoming traffic.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think in the northern hemisphere the sunrises stay earlier much later into summer than they do here in the southern hemisphere, which lends itself to having more daylight to save longer into autumn up there.
Our earliest sunrises here in Australia are in late November into early December, with sunrise already starting to get later even before you reach the summer solstice. So by this time in March, even here in poor old Brisbane sunrise is almost an hour later than it was three months ago. Hence why people complain that DST drags on for too long in places that have it until April.
Of course, I’d kill for any form of DST here in Brisbane that stopped me being woken by the birds (and the screaming toddler) at 4am in early summer. If the price I pay is a few dark mornings in late March, that’s still worth it.
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Exactly, most of the Northern Hemisphere’s landmass is a lot closer to the poles, hence the difference to our experiences down-under.
What the late-risers tend not to recognise, is that people actually do make use of early sunlight hours in the summer (being bed, you won’t see people out and about). If the timeshift back to Standard Time happened 3-4 weeks sooner, they’d still be able to, whilst still allowing evening-light lovers one last grasp of “summer”.
Absolutely. Bungendore can have an extreme diurnal range in temperature in summer so people make use of the cooler mornings to get things done. In this respect DST can be favourable because the heat of the day is delayed by an hour. The other overlooked aspect of DST is that the evenings stay hotter for longer. Bungendore is lucky to get a reliable evening seabreeze but places to the west aren’t as fortunate; they generally stay hot right until sunset. That makes it harder to get to sleep before 11 PM.
Despite all that, I think DST is warranted but should definitely finish about a month earlier. Diurnal temperature variations aren’t as significant on the coast (where most people live) so the above discussion isn’t that relevant to them. The worst time of day on the NSW coast can actually be the early morning, due to high humidity and zero wind.
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Interesting situation in Lebanon with clocks diving the country in two
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