That’s actually pretty much the normal experience… everyone gets excited for the extra hour but then never actually use it because they end up waking at the same time and getting disappointed! So you did celebrate it right!
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True. If anything it’s an extra hour before work. An extra hour for breakfast. An extra hour to flick between News Breakfast, Weekend Today and Weekend Sunrise.
How sad. You could go out and enjoy an extra hour of the real world.
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With all the extra daylight it’s probably time to replace those faded curtains 
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This is a media forum. I had to bring it back to the media somehow.
An extra hour to read the The Age and SMH headlines down at the park? An extra hour to listen to Macca’s Australia All Over while walking along the beach?
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This is bullshit in Melbourne right now. Broad daylight before 7am and total darkness by 6:30pm. And it’s only April
Why? Who would want it this way?
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People who like to go for a walk or do exercise before work in the morning? It’s only a couple of weeks and it’s going to be dark at 7am again which would have been darkness at 8am. Who wants that?
It sucks but it’s not daylight saving at fault, it’s just our latitude and the seasonal changes. I’d rather daylight after work too but I’d also like it before work, just not possible for several months of the year.
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You may prefer daylight savings time and want it to go a week longer, but…
How anyone can complain about Standard Time is beyond me.
12:00 (noon) is when the sun is directly overhead (or as close at to that as it gets depending on the season). The rest - when the sun rises & sets, etc. - is physics.
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Well they can get fucked, why does the world revolve around them?
They would be in a minority, In the last weeks of dls the running tracks and streets are pretty empty at 7am but there are lots of people out and about at 6pm. Sun after work is more important to society.
I reckon there would be a lot of people who would prefer it to be light before 8am than 9am though. Let alone it would be much safer for schools having students arrive or walking in daylight than darkness.
Here it would be dark by 5:45pm in the middle of winter anyway. By the time I get home from work there’s still no time for anything. I see a lot more people out in the early mornings though than at that time after daylight saving anyway so maybe it’s a location thing.
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I wish we weren’t so beholden to the Exercise Lobby when we adopted standard time in 1895.
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Got to watch out for Big Exercise
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I’ve just experienced my first daylight saving and I can’t disagree more with this.
I think having daylight saving is the perfect option to keep morning sunrise at a reasonable time year-round and to add some after work time during the summer months when the longer days allow for it.
The actual time change was not annoying at all. Most things are automatic nowadays. In the 3 days since DST ended, I haven’t found a single clock on the wrong time. Parking meters, electronic signs, etc. all adjusted automatically.
On Sunday morning, it took less than 5 minutes to change the analogue clocks and the microwave clock I have and that was it. No real inconvenience at all. My alarm clock, phone, computer, tablet, clock in my car, etc. all changed automatically.
5 minutes spent changing a few clocks twice per year is really not annoying and unnecessary in my opinion, compared to the benefits of the longer days that DST provides.
Not time and time again, once. There was one single referendum in 1992. Government polling in 2007 and constant unofficial media polling has shown time and time again that there are now more people in favour than not, unlike the one referendum.
I do agree that NT doesn’t need it. But that’s because they are effectively already on year-round DST. As I said above earlier, Solar Noon in Darwin in Summer is 1:00pm and in Winter is 12:50pm as it is, so they’re basically already on DST.
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Yes the last referendum was in 1992 but if you live in Queensland it’s discussed on a yearly basis when the government wants to hide something or change the news cycle for a day.
I have lived in Queensland and in NSW and it is not a major inconvenience.
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I spent the better part of 10 years arguing about this prior to moving from WA to the US and really don’t want to start again. However, since I was quoted…
This argument is used constantly in WA too. My favourite was the “younger people haven’t had their say since the last referendum”. In the lead up to the last referendum this was used repeatedly and in the end it didn’t matter. They got their say and the vote still failed.
Also this was at the peak of the mining boom when WA had an influx of people from other states. It still didn’t matter.
Polling always shows people in favour of it. Probably because they always ask a bunch of people who were outside at the time.
The problem with this argument is you are assuming everyone wants to do everything in the afternoon. While there are plenty who do like that there are also plenty who prefer the early morning for their exercise or whatever it is they are doing.
Personally I don’t care about any of it. I’m not outside for either period so it doesn’t bother me but I do understand the morning crowd better. It is light early and not as hot compared to the afternoon. They can have their morning run when it’s 25 degrees instead of 40 like it would be in the afternoon.
Obviously everyone’s definition of what constitutes “too hot” varies but there is no argument that morning is almost always cooler. Some people love that it’s light at 4:30am and can do their thing while most are still in bed.
Also on this… do you just keep having votes until it finally passes? Then what? No more votes? This is the thing that irritates me the most about it all. Most people I have spoken to who are pro-daylight saving say they will keep pushing until they get it and then never listen to the other side again.
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I would say South East Queensland would be voting yes towards it more than other parts of the state, considering their proximity to the NSW border - particularly Gold Coast residents.
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I agree. North Queensland would surely be much like NT in that they thrive during the non-DST months when the weather is drier/cooler?
Daylight Saving would probably be great in South East Queensland but it’d probably only really work well there from say, the first weekend in November to the first one in March. But that would be too hard to properly implement because NSW or Victoria (where the current October-April duration probably works fine for the majority in Sydney & Melbourne) realistically won’t shorten the time of year they observe DST just to suit Queensland.
That has also been raised in WA many times. Give Perth and the southwest region daylight saving and leave the rest of the state on standard time. Pretty much the same argument for Brisbane and the rest of Queensland.
Splitting states in to multiple timezones isn’t a good idea. Eucla being an odd exception with their weird +8:45 timezone but since it’s so remote and affects maybe a few hundred people total it doesn’t really make any difference to anyone.
I honestly wonder how many of these people who insist on having daylight saving actually make any use of it on a regular basis - not just once a week/month/whatever. I’m willing to bet a good chunk of the population are at home sitting on their ass watching TV or looking at some other screen at the end of the day.
Sure there are plenty of people who enjoy the beach on a hot day and others who enjoy a picnic at the park but after a long day at work most people would end up going home. All of the things people say daylight saving is good for can be done on weekends.
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I also don’t like the sun waking me up stupidly early, which is what would happen without DST.
Talk about fading the curtains!
Strangely I’d have imagined parents - who have said they have trouble getting them to bed at 19:30 when it’s still bright - wouldn’t want their kids being up (and waking them) at 04:30?
There’s also a benefit for PV (solar) electricity generation; we don’t need as much of that at 05:00 as we do in the evening, so DST helps with more cheap electricity when people actually use it.
Overall I think it’s a positive, even though I don’t make as much use of it as some.
Whatever the start & end dates are they need to be standardised, so a compromise is needed with something that works well for most, so if that’d mean it starting a few weeks later &/or ending a week early, that’d still be better than the current mess of Australian timezones in summer.
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I work nights and sleep all day so I’m used to the sun being out while sleeping.
The good news is there is a solution to your problem that doesn’t involve an entire state having to change and you mentioned it yourself…
Get some thicker curtains to block out the light and sleep peacefully.
Problem solved.