# Watermarks **URL:** \ **Category:** General Television Topics\ **Created:** [December 28, 2015, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252 "2015-12-28T07:56:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 349
**Author:** ![calculon559](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/calculon559/32/359634_2.png) [@calculon559](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/calculon559)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7157 "2023-12-31T08:05:41Z")
My understanding is the AFL have ‘clean’ versions (e.g. no network watermarks) of every match from the 2002 broadcast deal onwards in their archives, but anything before that has the 7 logo as far back as 1996. A quick look at AFL Classics on Kayo seems to back this up. As to why networks would show a ‘dirty’ feed instead? Probably some Australian equivalent of ‘fair use’ that people have figured out. I remember when the Footy Show wouldn’t dare to show any AFL/Ch7 footage, now they run analysis on Fox Footy clips every Sunday like it’s nothing. ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7158 "2023-12-31T10:00:31Z")
Broadcast ![12-31_19-59-46_ABC TV_ABC TV.ts_000060986](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/2/6/c/26cf6f3faf2ead52ed5a6843b409f934da61cde9.jpeg) You Tube ![image](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/2/b/6/2b6af1b66a6ff45674d570deb8522ec0770dd543.jpeg) ![12-31_19-59-46_ABC TV_ABC TV.ts_000646280](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/1/8/a/18a0ad68fd3a590e9c1b777eb7b63046a68dbb3a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JCK98](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/57b2e6/32.png) [@JCK98](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JCK98)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7159 "2024-01-01T02:01:08Z")
7 must have some clean versions of games from that era. The 1997 Grand Final was shown here in Adelaide during the Grand Final marathon last year. Lost the scorebug along with the watermark and added hideous grey bars at some stage. ![IMG_2391](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/f/2/b/f2be96463f27f541534a47039e1d8625070d3aa5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![calculon559](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/calculon559/32/359634_2.png) [@calculon559](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/calculon559)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7160 "2024-01-01T04:07:28Z")
Oh I’m sure Ch 7 does, but that’s not what they gave the AFL to put in the archive. ---
**Author:** ![foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/foxyrover/32/272518_2.png) [@foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/foxyrover)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7161 "2024-01-01T05:54:24Z")
> [@calculon559](#): > > now they run analysis on Fox Footy clips every Sunday like it’s nothing. Because they have a deal in place with Fox to get and use any footage they want as long as they credit Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/petarkco/32/220380_2.png) [@Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Petarkco)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7162 "2024-01-02T07:10:10Z")
WWOS watermark ![image](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/3/f/f/3ff593777c2a4371e07c617446528b28140c646e.png) ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7163 "2024-01-02T23:25:43Z")
Pink test ![Sunrise_20240103_0742.ts_005863389](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/e/e/1/ee18a50971d2dfc91bc7fb3798ea1c6d8d905079.jpeg) ![vlcsnap-00027](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/f/1/f/f1fdac03e86eed122f6fa55a2feba3ded7ef15d9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7164 "2024-01-03T22:39:13Z")
Pink 7 Mate w/m ![20240104083814](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/3/e/0/3e0511fbdc6076ea092dc40d25534373eb7c0e50.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/petarkco/32/220380_2.png) [@Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Petarkco)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7165 "2024-01-04T00:11:50Z")
Seven 2000 watermark ![Screenshot 2024-01-04 11-11-22](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/d/1/c/d1c7c09a930a3c53b1f2002b17807ebf58cdb435.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/petarkco/32/220380_2.png) [@Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Petarkco)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7166 "2024-01-04T04:12:59Z")
![2024-01-04 11-09-32.mp4_snapshot_01.55.55.633_2024.01.04_15.12.39](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/8/c/f/8cff3d0a66e7b486ee060e17b73df079d6296720.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Biscuit45](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/biscuit45/32/489507_2.png) [@Biscuit45](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Biscuit45)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7167 "2024-01-04T04:31:30Z")
I can see it, but- ![Screen_Shot_2018-04-06_at_10.45.01_AM](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/3/2/1/3215f315e7143337713efb3400fbd0d80c557b82.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/petarkco/32/220380_2.png) [@Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Petarkco)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7168 "2024-01-05T08:26:38Z")
WWOS in 1080 ![image](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/c/b/4/cb45f5ce1fa5e9e3cc980369642fbef21186ddaf.png) ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7169 "2024-01-05T22:09:06Z")
![7HD20240106_0150.ts_015376226](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/f/3/0/f3014266bfd6b2f723ad5fd601247d6a6bfc41a7.jpeg) ![7HD20240106_0150.ts_015377249](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/9/e/1/9e15214c009a5d136bac36e974a13b14001ebb5a.jpeg) ![7HD20240106_0150.ts_015826662](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/f/1/6/f16a94785c7364d2208ea65352ea7eff7d807d02.jpeg) ![7HD20240106_0150.ts_015828732](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/7/4/d/74decf300ad9d8b2b16f3db16470f870d8506195.jpeg) ![7HD20240106_0150.ts_015830642](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/0/9/3/093254c3946f308781c2d9f98c6c3ad4c308db4c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/aussietvguy/32/360638_2.png) [@AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/AussieTVGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7170 "2024-01-06T01:33:06Z")
I’m surprised that Seven still use the 2016-19 watermark for NBC Today and I think The Morning Show. Why does Seven still use it? ---
**Author:** ![foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/foxyrover/32/272518_2.png) [@foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/foxyrover)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7171 "2024-01-06T23:57:58Z")
Because it fits and so they are keeping it. ---
**Author:** ![AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/aussietvguy/32/360638_2.png) [@AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/AussieTVGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7172 "2024-01-07T12:24:04Z")
A good concept would be to have the current Seven logo and drop the 7plus,com,au and have the positioning of the watermark the same used 2016-19. Here are 2 examples I made that are virtually the same (excuse the grey bars on the top and bottom: ![Screenshot 2024-01-07 at 11.21.05 pm](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/c/e/c/cecb3c126d07f98b5414a916c5ed0ddb8aae9b3a.png) ![Screenshot 2024-01-07 at 11.18.30 pm](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/1/6/6/166b906f75471cc5c1495523a77c21f73c98fc20.png) ---
**Author:** ![AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/aussietvguy/32/360638_2.png) [@AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/AussieTVGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7173 "2024-01-07T12:31:00Z")
Unrelated, but which Jackass movie is this? ---
**Author:** ![yourfbiagent](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/yourfbiagent/32/364244_2.png) [@yourfbiagent](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/yourfbiagent)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7174 "2024-01-07T12:44:50Z")
Searching the image using Google Lens, this comes up as from the 2002 Jackass movie. ---
**Author:** ![AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/aussietvguy/32/360638_2.png) [@AussieTVGuy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/AussieTVGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7175 "2024-01-07T12:50:04Z")
Ah right thanks. My first though was number two because it’s my favourite. ---
**Author:** ![BigVic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bigvic/32/209954_2.png) [@BigVic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/BigVic)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252/7176 "2024-01-07T12:59:05Z")
The Olympic Rings on NBC’s _Today_ show should be covered up by the 7 logo with 7 not having the Olympics in Australia for the next 8 years. [Previous page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252.md?page=348) [Next page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/watermarks/252.md?page=350)