Typical boys club mentality. How many female cohosts has he gone through over the year? Yet he always got to stay even in dire ratings.
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I agree massive ego. But think about what a difficult position that could potentially put him in - if he knew they were considering Lisa leaving before he cancelled on the party - and couldnāt say anything to her. I can understand why he chose to avoid rather than fake it.
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She was treated appallingly. Karlās attitude though made him part of that treatment too - yes, understandable if he knew heād have felt awkward socialising with her but he could have handled it so much better. I also know from personal experience how much it hurts when you leave work and what you thought was a close friend who you both worked and socialised with subsequently blanks you.
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I think if you spoke to Karl now, he would regret his behaviour. Karl had his own issues developing at the time, but he most likely didnāt know how to handle or process the situation.
9 management (2017) at the time were to blame here.
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After reading the news.com.au article on Lisa. I never knew how much chaos was really going on BTS @ āTodayā. Itās just like the Apple TV+ āMorning Warsā. Where Lisa plays Alex Levy.
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Very similar. I thought the same.
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I want to see this episode of today!
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So in the years Karl hosted the show between Jessica Rowe and Lisa he didnāt learn to be any more supportive of his co-host? Makes Karlās mea culpa in his recent podcast appearance with Jess seem like a load of bullshit.
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Then with Georgie. A pattern of behaviour that suggests itās always been more about him than being a supportive friend and colleague. Heās the prime example of what a co-host is not.
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He joins a long line of people in the media who are in it for themselves. As long as Karlās role was secure that was probably all that mattered to him.
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Pretty nasty of Karl if thatās true. He only rose to prominence on Today in recent years (pre-2017) thanks to Lisaās influence and their chemistry which wouldnāt have been possible if it didnāt happen. Has he ever thought of the fact that if it wasnāt for Lisa no one would really care for him?
Unfortunately I canāt look at him the same way again. Part of his image is ruined by that kind of pettiness from him.
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Exactly. I donāt recall anyone particularly caring for Karl Stefanovic when Tracy Grimshaw, Jessica Rowe and Sarah Murdoch were his co-hosts.
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I think itās really important to remember here that this is Lisaās side of the story, of which there are always two sides. 100% not a great look for Karl but without hearing his side (which I doubt we ever will), I think it best to take this information with a grain of salt.
We donāt know what else may have been happening behind the scenes at the time.
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Ah but MWJ this is what people do now because of #metoo. As soon as a woman comes out and says something against a man it has to be true. The woman is instantly believed and the book is thrown at the man. The days of two sides to every story are gone.
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I can sort of see Karlās side of the story.
Heās not obliged to give Lisa a full essay explanation for why he didnāt attend her wedding. Perhaps he couldāve said more, but the short text will suffice.
And whilst asking how the wedding was when they saw each at work would be a nice thing to do, he isnāt obliged to ask her how it was. And to be fair, itās 5:30am in the morning. Might be too early in the morning to socialise.
But I do feel sorry for Lisa in the way she was suddenly sacked. In terms of the pay gap between them, IIRC, isnāt one explanation that Karl did more at the network than Lisa, such as a few stories for 60 Minutes? That could explain why Karl was on higher pay.
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That and the fact heād been there for many years before her. Itās common to be paid higher for the amount of years youāve been at a work place.
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Think from what I heard Lisa was also sick of the fact that Karl gets a lot more projects like 60 Minutes stories, This Time Next Year etc to do whereas Lisa only ever got to do Carols by Candlelight in primetime. Maybe she was tired of not being offered the same opportunities as Karl, which is entirely understandable since she was as much of a star as Karl.
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Umm thatās the height of rudeness. He RSVP that he was going and then the morning of sent a curt text to Pete to say heās not going. If youāre friends with someone, you call them and politely withdraw. Sorry but what Karl did was rude and cowardly.
But Iām not surprised you would side with him.
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It was a dick swinging competition.
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