# Today (2015-Sept 2020)

**URL:** <https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101>\
**Category:** Nine News\
**Created:** [December 28, 2015, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101 "2015-12-28T05:58:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![spw68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/spw68/32/537940_2.png) [@spw68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/spw68)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4528 "2018-08-26T03:59:41Z")

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> [@OnAir](#):
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> Georgie I don’t think has that (she’s a very very good newsreader), it’s just not her personality

I said exactly the same thing years ago when she hosted Sunrise. A good newsreader but once the format loosened a little, eg longer interviews or chats, she didn’t manage it well or appear comfortable.

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**Author:** ![Djohns2740](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@Djohns2740](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Djohns2740)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4529 "2018-08-26T04:00:01Z")

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Not suggesting a local Melbourne version, but am suggesting the national version be based in Melbourne

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4530 "2018-08-26T04:56:51Z")

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> [@Djohns2740](#):
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> Not suggesting a local Melbourne version, but am suggesting the national version be based in Melbourne

Interestingly Rob McKnight suggested exactly that on his recent podcast.

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**Author:** ![Djohns2740](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@Djohns2740](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Djohns2740)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4531 "2018-08-26T05:03:31Z")

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Mmmm. Haven’t listened to it yet, better get on it 😬

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**Author:** ![Salty](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/salty/32/71_2.png) [@Salty](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Salty)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4532 "2018-08-26T06:27:51Z")

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Sylvia is back from holidays tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![nationalnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/nationalnews/32/16922_2.png) [@nationalnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/nationalnews)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4533 "2018-08-26T07:02:25Z")

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> [@Djohns2740](#):
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> Not suggesting a local Melbourne version, but am suggesting the national version be based in Melbourne

They won’t do that because their week in Melbourne, from GTV, was when their signifcant fall began (even in Melbourne). They promoted the week heavily, had local presenters and bigger name guests than they usually do and they still lost.

Why are they losing in Melbourne? No Lisa.

Hopefully when they move to Barangaroo Today will get a fish-bowl studio.

> [@spw68](#):
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> I said exactly the same thing years ago when she hosted Sunrise. A good newsreader but once the format loosened a little, eg longer interviews or chats, she didn’t manage it well or appear comfortable.

There is a lot of material on Youtube that shows her wit, sass and chemistry with ALL of the team. I just think she is only co-host now for the $$$.

> [@TV.Cynic](#):
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> Today is down in all markets, it just wasn’t as far ahead in Melbourne as Sydney so with a drop across the board it’s now behind in Melbourne.

Today started to lose in Melbourne when the show became more Queensland-focused ( with the addition of Sylvia). Really it is no surprise that Today’s number 1 market on Friday was Brisbane.

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**Author:** ![littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/littlegezzybear/32/219836_2.png) [@littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/littlegezzybear)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4534 "2018-08-26T07:13:24Z")

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> [@nationalnews](#):
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> Hopefully when they move to Barangaroo Today will get a fish-bowl studio.

Nine is actually moving to North Sydney, not across the harbour.

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**Author:** ![nationalnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/nationalnews/32/16922_2.png) [@nationalnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/nationalnews)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4535 "2018-08-26T07:17:19Z")

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> [@littlegezzybear](#):
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> Nine is actually moving to North Sydney, not across the harbour.

Yes. Neil Breen had plans to move the show over to Barangaroo in 2013. Got my wires crossed.

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**Author:** ![Djohns2740](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@Djohns2740](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Djohns2740)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4536 "2018-08-26T09:55:20Z")

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> [@nationalnews](#):
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> They won’t do that because their week in Melbourne, from GTV, was when their signifcant fall began (even in Melbourne). They promoted the week heavily, had local presenters and bigger name guests than they usually do and they still lost.

But where did they lose the audience from, was it Victoria or Sydney?..wouldn’t surprise me if it was Sydney (but I admit to not knowing and can’t remember which week it was to look back at)

And it comes to a point where you have to try something, or nothing will improve

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**Author:** ![nationalnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/nationalnews/32/16922_2.png) [@nationalnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/nationalnews)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4537 "2018-08-26T10:03:02Z")

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> [@Djohns2740](#):
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> But where did they lose the audience from, was it Victoria or Sydney?..wouldn’t surprise me if it was Sydney

Massive drop in Sydney but still lost in Melbourne that week:

> **[Sunrise beating Today's week in Melbourne | TV Tonight](https://tvtonight.com.au/2018/06/sunrise-beating-todays-week-in-melbourne.html)**
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> Ratings: Sunrise has beaten Today's Melbourne-made broadcasts in that city on all but one day.

> [@Djohns2740](#):
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> And it comes to a point where you have to try something, or nothing will improve

True. I am surprised that we are almost in September and they have not changed a thing.

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**Author:** ![Snoozenooze](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@Snoozenooze](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Snoozenooze)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4538 "2018-08-26T10:04:03Z")

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> [@David](#):
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> Peter Hitcherner was born in QLD but he’s No1 in Melbourne.

Huh? But he’s strongly identified with Melbourne now, and that’s what matters.

They definitely need to boost their appeal in the southern/AFL states and they can do that with having a sports presenter that actually knows something about AFL, talk about AFL more, and use channel nine personalities tied to AFL more - eg Pav in Perth, and just about everyone in GTV.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4539 "2018-08-26T10:08:02Z")

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> [@nationalnews](#):
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> Massive drop in Sydney but still lost in Melbourne that week:

Thanks…that’s where I should have looked

Change doesn’t come quick always…look at Ten News @ 5 in Melbourne…sometimes you gotta go down before coming back up.

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**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4540 "2018-08-26T10:12:31Z")

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The drop in Melbourne reflects the drop nationally. Today’s ratings problems need to be addressed on a national basis whether it is presenters, content, studio and/or graphics. Tailoring a solution to some perceived Melbourne-based problem isn’t a solution to the problems everywhere else and could potentially alienate other markets.

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**Author:** ![SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sydneycitytv/32/66248_2.png) [@SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/SydneyCityTV)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4541 "2018-08-26T10:57:31Z")

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Exactly. Sydney & Brisbane are Nine’s strongest rating metro markets the last I checked, so whatever they do to boost the viewing figures for Today down South needs to be done in a way that won’t completely ailenate those up North.

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**Author:** ![TheMoreYouKnow](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/themoreyouknow/32/457335_2.png) [@TheMoreYouKnow](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TheMoreYouKnow)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4542 "2018-08-26T12:50:21Z")

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Uh, no. Melbourne is a Nine town, apart from the AFL. The Block, news, ACA, most shows - they rate better in Melbourne than Sydney

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**Author:** ![NewsAustralia](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/newsaustralia/32/144191_2.png) [@NewsAustralia](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/NewsAustralia)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4543 "2018-08-26T13:31:26Z")

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> [@TheMoreYouKnow](#):
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> Melbourne is a Nine town

How is it a Nine town when half of the shows you listed rate high… the news is the only dominance, which does not mean Melbourne is a Nine town.

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**Author:** ![SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sydneycitytv/32/66248_2.png) [@SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/SydneyCityTV)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4544 "2018-08-26T13:37:25Z")

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> [@TheMoreYouKnow](#):
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> Melbourne is a Nine town, apart from the AFL.

According to [this](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/ratings-2017-ratings-results-per-city/3914), last year Nine’s main channel got a considerably higher percentage of the audience between 6pm and midnight in Sydney & Brisbane than they did in Melbourne where they were barely ahead of Seven.

Now admittedly I’m not sure how they’re doing this year (although I’d guess the gap is considerably closer due to things like GC2018, the decline in Ninja Warrior, etc.) but I stand by my point. Nine definitely should do what they can to improve the Melbourne ratings of Today, but not at the expense of Sydney & Brisbane.

> [@TheMoreYouKnow](#):
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> The Block, news, ACA, most shows - they rate better in Melbourne than Sydney

Aside from differences in things like the football, just about every program on every network gets higher numbers in Melbourne than Sydney from what I’ve seen.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4545 "2018-08-26T18:26:16Z")

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I think they just need to a quick swap of Georgie & Deb’s roles on Nine. As great as everyone thought it would be, it just hasn’t worked with Georgie in the chair. She clearly can’t stand anyone on that team and doesn’t want to be there.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4546 "2018-08-26T19:34:09Z")

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**Monday (27.08.2018):** Tim Gilbert is co-hosting with Georgie today, in addition to presenting sport, as Karl is off sick. Stevie Jacobs is presenting the weather, as has been mentioned, this week.

Surely, they don’t think Tim will rate/be better than Sylvia. At least they could get a newsreader. There is a reason he rarely co-hosts.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/today-2015-sept-2020/101/4547 "2018-08-26T20:24:43Z")

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Melbourne definitely used to be a Nine town, but I think as AFL becomes more ingrained as Seven’s thing it’s changing - Seven has the sport they love on it. Cricket on Seven will only cement that impression.

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