# The Archival Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Regionals\ **Created:** [April 18, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599 "2020-04-18T09:53:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/mubd)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/1 "2020-04-18T09:53:37Z")
The thread for budding television archivists to discuss their craft My Youtube channel is called [igth4t](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FfcQNwKw-a1n8IbbTcqDg). It’s separate to my main Youtube account mubd1234 because I don’t want copyright strikes to take the main channel down. I try to upload adverts as well as obscure programs that I assume the copyright holders don’t really care about. Here are a few vids I’ve uploaded (out of many)… My setup consists of an AverMedia U3 ExtremeCap USB capture card, connected via HDMI to an LG VCR/DVD Combo unit (it was purchased some time between 2012 and 2014 from what I recall, I’m borrowing it off a neighbour). Before that, I was digitising video tapes using the same capture card, but with a Sony VCR and a separate DVD recorder in the middle to act as an HDMI converter. Unfortunately the DVD recorder shat itself (it was already pretty flaky, I had replaced one of the capacitors on the main board already). The main issue with using a cheap AV to HDMI device (available on eBay for peanuts) hooked directly to a VCR is that many of them don’t have decent timebase correction for the analogue video, so you get terrible results with wavy video. DVD recorders and, even better, HDMI VCRs, have better TBC units. I implore anyone wishing to get into archiving video to watch this: I wasted a lot of time with EasyCap capture cards and their terrible video quality before I took on the advice espoused in the above video and using an upconverter. And for goodness’ sake - please capture video in 50FPS if possible to preserve the original video fluidity. See the comparison between this original music video here (uploaded to Youtube in 25fps), and the 50FPS upload I made: ---
**Author:** ![Frankie](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/258eb7/32.png) [@Frankie](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Frankie)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/2 "2020-04-18T15:11:23Z")
Good stuff. I shudder to think of all the VHS tapes I turfed out years ago. ---
**Author:** ![mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/mubd)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/3 "2020-05-07T11:48:41Z")
Here’s something funny I noticed - the chroma signal on the tape didn’t get wiped (it’s clearly from an old Ten ident), but the luminance signal beneath it is of a completely different program. There’s clearly a VCR fault on this tape where no colour was recorded when overwritten. ![image](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/2/f2521bbc8a2ea5a5314fa1ee015f1292bc655c3d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MGO](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/mgo/32/85024_2.png) [@MGO](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/MGO)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/4 "2020-06-12T10:08:22Z")
Ah I always wanted a thread like this. I am a self-confessed datahoarder. What started as a fun project in archiving news events as they happened, quickly turned into an obsession. I have about 300TB of Australian television content saved in raw TS format from 2010 onwards. This includes all FTA television channels available in Sydney for a 4 week period during the time of the London 2012 Olympic Games. Most of my recordings are 24 hours 10 minutes to allow a 5 minute overlap with the recording for the following day. Data was NOT cheap back then, nor was it available as much as it is now. Most of my archive is in 2TB internal drives which takes up a lot of space in storage. These days I’m running 14TB internal drives - makes things a LOT easier. It’s always fun to go back and watch TV “as it was”. Here’s a screenshot from one of the drives: ![datahoard](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/b/ab469e6ad0b1ef2a59688ef64ed2cb58dcc89735.png) ---
**Author:** ![Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/zampakid/32/270066_2.png) [@Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Zampakid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/5 "2020-06-12T10:41:04Z")
> [@MGO](#): > > I have about 300TB of Australian television content saved in raw TS format from 2010 onwards. This includes all FTA television channels available in Sydney for a 4 week period during the time of the London 2012 Olympic Games. Most of my recordings are 24 hours 10 minutes to allow a 5 minute overlap with the recording for the following day. Woah, that’s impressive! If only I had that amount of continous recordings, all my “current” recordings are only in segments as I didn’t have enough space on my USB PVR on my previous TV, and I could only record up to 30 minutes. ![Screenshot (80)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/9/0/907eea339f0d2e46f396fb15a20dd0f33973789d.png) ---
**Author:** ![Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/zampakid/32/270066_2.png) [@Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Zampakid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/6 "2020-06-12T10:52:24Z")
Here’s where I archive and backup all of my VHS digitisations and most of my PVR recordings: ![Photo 12-6-20, 8 45 20 pm](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/9/2/92bbf6e06e4881ce5f397a1830db1c86a0ad1c3b.jpeg) ![Photo 12-6-20, 8 47 04 pm](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/5/a5a30617e8bd362f4315a4bffb257506bcc48920.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sydneycitytv/32/66248_2.png) [@SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/SydneyCityTV)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/7 "2020-06-12T11:16:06Z")
Ahh yes, the brief period of time in 2012 (there were a few more during 2010 with the two 3D trials + March/April 2010 between TVS Digital launching and the D44 Datacasting trial ending) when there were seven DVB-T multiplexes on-air in Sydney. ---
**Author:** ![Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/zampakid/32/270066_2.png) [@Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Zampakid)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/8 "2020-08-16T12:45:21Z")
I’ve recently decided to deinterlace my VHS uploads to 50fps after spending a long time finding a program that allows me do it, and here’s how they turned out: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/peNAdS69Xh0/maxresdefault.jpg "National Nine News Sydney - 15 Second Special Report Promo (July 1994)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peNAdS69Xh0) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/T0z-op6Vp3s/maxresdefault.jpg "National Nine News Sydney + A Current Affair - 30 Second Promo/Update (10.1.2005)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0z-op6Vp3s) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Q1MnpNtXmto/hqdefault.jpg "Ten News Melbourne - Opener (8.9.2009)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1MnpNtXmto) All thanks to Adobe Media Encoder. ---
**Author:** ![mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/mubd)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/9 "2020-08-16T13:43:11Z")
That’s more like it. ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/10 "2020-08-19T10:08:45Z")
> **[Round the Twist: 10 memorable moments | Screen News – Screen Australia](https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/sa/screen-news/2020/08-18-round-the-twist-memorable-moments?utm_source=email&utm_medium=enews-19-aug&utm_campaign=2020-08-18-round-the-twist-memorable-moments)** > > It’s been 30 years since the popular and beloved children’s series Round the Twist first hit our screens. > Premiering on 26 August 1990 and spanning over a decade, the popular show followed the Twist family (siblings Pete, Linda and Bronson, and their widowed father Tony) who lived in a haunted lighthouse in the fictional coast town of Port Niranda. ---
**Author:** ![MGO](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/mgo/32/85024_2.png) [@MGO](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/MGO)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/11 "2020-10-20T13:14:49Z")
Good evening archivists. My personal television archive has grown quite considerably. I don’t have all of the drives in this photo, but I have around 280TB in total. I don’t compress the footage, and I always save in TS format. Mostly I am recording 9 and ABC but during the US elections I will be recording all networks for about one week. Possibly also some radio networks if I can get my USB devices working, in time. ![Screenshot_20201021-001211_Messenger](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/0/f/0f4c3b174da271d7f3b587ecefa7dd2b8e221570.jpeg) What are my future plans? Well, recording the raw TS of Nine every single day has taken up a LOT of space. In hindsight, a lot of the recording space is unnecessary such as the infomercials that air overnight. I am working on a way to automate the recordings on two separate computers that alternate between themselves every 24 hours, with a 2 minute overlap to ensure continuity. I would like to think that writing a script to extract the subtitles is not a hard task? This would allow for a master file to be created where the user can simply “CTRL+F” a name, word or subject and find all mentions of such in any previous broadcast. There is a very big difference in a “data dump” and an archive which serves a useful purpose. At present I don’t have a proper method of indexing these files, apart from the timestamp and the filename which shows the date and the network that is recorded. I should mention as well, the 24 hour recording of a network broadcast in transport stream format (raw) is about 235GB per 24 hours. This is absolutely insane and you can imagine how expensive that is to maintain a proper archive. Extracting the subtitles and the EPG data to a master file would make this a lot easier to track. ---
**Author:** ![SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sydneycitytv/32/66248_2.png) [@SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/SydneyCityTV)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/12 "2020-10-20T13:37:49Z")
> [@MGO](#): > > Possibly also some radio networks if I can get my USB devices working, in time. With both the ABC and SBS running the majority of their radio stations via DVB-T these days (wasn’t so much the case even just a few years ago), that’s probably a decent enough source for radio content from the public broadcasters if your TS format recordings manage to save those audio streams. > [@MGO](#): > > What are my future plans? My guess probably would’ve been “Capturing all Sydney DVB-T and DAB+ transmissions” or something among those lines. ---
**Author:** ![Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/zampakid/32/270066_2.png) [@Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Zampakid)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/13 "2022-03-10T13:40:56Z")
I’ve tried a new method of exporting clips to 50fps using a program called **‘VirtualDub2’** , and here’s the results: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OxUvpqTVP-4/maxresdefault.jpg "Channel Seven - Sunday Night at the Movies Opener (11.8.1991)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxUvpqTVP-4) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HbATd3ySMfk/maxresdefault.jpg "Ten News Perth - Afternoon News Update (16.7.1998) [2]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbATd3ySMfk) [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98hzl-Sm6e4) ---
**Author:** ![Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/petarkco/32/220380_2.png) [@Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Petarkco)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/14 "2022-03-13T02:57:00Z")
> [@Zampakid](#): > > I’ve tried a new method of exporting clips to 50fps using a program called **‘VirtualDub2’** , and here’s the results: What settings are you using? Also a poll for everyone. Regarding a community preferred method of archiving VHS tapes. _Poll ([view on site](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/14))_ ---
**Author:** ![Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/zampakid/32/270066_2.png) [@Zampakid](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Zampakid)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/15 "2022-03-13T03:16:00Z")
> [@Petarkco](#): > > What settings are you using? ![Screenshot (65)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/d/c/9/dc920b05c0f41d126821c361b0cd2cff1d57c7a7.png) ![Screenshot (103)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/6/4/d/64d3e805639c51080e0aa96e7c0b08f581652f4c.png) ![Screenshot (104)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/d/3/0/d3055098704ad7ac261103550c8347dae4b7250e.png) ![Screenshot (105)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/9/a/0/9a08fab836ff6c36cec6d5969b80463953f7d198.png) ![Screenshot (106)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/1/1/d/11d8140915ae30c1aea0f684b9bcee7be06b3193.png) ![Screenshot (107)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/d/f/6/df6a6dbc42510c45cf35399f2f759d90bea79900.png) ![Screenshot (108)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/b/4/4/b44c05f811086842d94d40363ae0f0c108a8c5ac.jpeg) ![Screenshot (109)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/9/c/e/9cea3f44e80b91ea9516e49783935ceda79cf4bd.png) ![Screenshot (110)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/0/2/0/020a131b923d9358d46169136064a59ad888e979.png) ![Screenshot (111)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/5/6/f/56f0e6cf36e3a8ac65ae4c95eec90f3b47c3b185.jpeg) ![Screenshot (112)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/3/4/5/345f05956b1a59a351ce948eefbe34e518b1b5ac.jpeg) ![Screenshot (113)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/4/e/4/4e4eed6442bef35b96f9f1900630f0ade176b889.jpeg) ![Screenshot (115)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/0/5/0/05067061ad47279c02e3591d3ee729bc9dd1eeda.png) ![Screenshot (116)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/6/e/4/6e4708b615f8b1f48164a4dc04211883db53469c.jpeg) ![Screenshot (117)](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/f/6/9/f69121a63a5e8a85729c0d3060317e8212840992.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/mubd)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/16 "2022-03-16T18:55:56Z")
My preferred option would be to upload the entire tape to [archive.org](http://archive.org) with all potential copyright infringements snipped out, and also create individual videos on YouTube for each ad/presentation segment. The workflow for [archive.org](http://archive.org) is extremely difficult to implement, though. ---
**Author:** ![Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/petarkco/32/220380_2.png) [@Petarkco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Petarkco)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/17 "2022-03-17T03:37:15Z")
> [@mubd](#): > > The workflow for [archive.org](http://archive.org) is extremely difficult to implement, though Yes, the long wait to capture a full tape and then hoping it uploads without failure. ---
**Author:** ![Ricketycricket](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/ricketycricket/32/11034_2.png) [@Ricketycricket](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Ricketycricket)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/18 "2022-07-21T02:08:37Z")
The University of Wollongong has started to digitise the WIN News collection in its custody. There only seem to be isolated clips so far, and it looks like the news clips are only digitised as recently as 1970. A link to the digitised WIN News clips is here: [https://archivesonline.uow.edu.au/nodes/view/10927?keywords=WIN%20News&type=all&highlights=eyIwIjoibmV3cyZyc3F1bzsiLCIyIjoibmV3cyIsIjMiOiJ3aW40In0=](https://archivesonline.uow.edu.au/nodes/view/10927?keywords=WIN%20News&type=all&highlights=eyIwIjoibmV3cyZyc3F1bzsiLCIyIjoibmV3cyIsIjMiOiJ3aW40In0=) There are also clips from WIN’s Sunday Review, digitised as recently as 1977. Link here: [https://archivesonline.uow.edu.au/nodes/view/3490?keywords=WIN%20News&type=all&highlights=WyJuZXdzIiwid2luNCJd](https://archivesonline.uow.edu.au/nodes/view/3490?keywords=WIN%20News&type=all&highlights=WyJuZXdzIiwid2luNCJd) ---
**Author:** ![RetroTvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/retrotvvideos/32/108932_2.png) [@RetroTvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/RetroTvVideos)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/19 "2022-08-08T08:46:50Z")
After depleting my personal collection of TV recordings I started to look for used VHS tapes on Ebay. Finding them for sale in Tasmania has been hard but recently i found a user selling lots of 20 tapes for $60 including shipping. Some of the tapes have been duds with all ads breaks removed by the person that originally recorded on the tape. There was 1 tape with a John Wayne movie on it recorded off TNT9 in the 80’s before they switched over to TAS TV. But all the ad breaks were gone which was a big let down. But most of the other tapes have had some real gold on them which i have been uploading to my [Youtube channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEcjt38oRx2APPTe9bS1K2w/videos). I do have 6 tapes with very poor picture quality when playing them on my VCR, I will try them on a different VCR to see if I get any improvement in the picture. On the weekend I found someone selling a lot of 6 VHS tapes in the Launceston area, they included in the Ebay description that the tapes had old ads on them so i tried to win the auction but was outbid and the winner paid $65 including shipping which i think is way to high for just 6 tapes. I hope the person that won plans to upload anything good on the tapes to Youtube. Well that is my thoughts on buying tapes on ebay what have been everyone else experience like? ---
**Author:** ![mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/mubd)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599/20 "2022-08-08T08:55:31Z")
Usually I just ask what’s on the tapes before I come around and grab them. A lot of the time they’ll be upfront and say “yeah we always paused on the ads”. I usually go on Gumtree or FB Marketplace to look for tapes, never eBay unless it’s a particularly rare find (the only purchase I’ve made was for a lot of S-VHS cassettes which turned out to be a gold mine). If they look to be in the right time period that I’m looking for (the older the better), I sometimes might take a gamble if someone says they don’t know…but I always ask. [Next page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/the-archival-thread/13599.md?page=2)