# Ten's weekend woes **URL:** \ **Category:** Ten Network\ **Created:** [September 11, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828 "2016-09-11T11:44:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sydneycitytv/32/66248_2.png) [@SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/SydneyCityTV)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/21 "2016-09-13T12:49:47Z")
> [@Ten Network - Programs and Schedules](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/ten-network-programs-and-schedules/44/827): > > Didn’t Young Talent Time once air on Saturday nights as well? I’m pretty sure that Young Talent Time did used to air on Saturday, even before Hey Hey It’s Saturday moved from the morning children’s timeslot to primetime. > [@Ten Network - Programs and Schedules](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/ten-network-programs-and-schedules/44/829): > > Bring back Gladiators. Seven tried that on Sunday nights back in 2008. Guess what? It quickly tanked in the ratings once Nine ran some strong competition against it in Domestic Blitz (from what I remember). Realistically, the only locally produced programing that Ten (or any network for that matter) would even think about running on Saturday nights are programs like All Star Family Feud that can be recorded in advance. In this day and age, the blockbuster programs will always be reserved for Sunday-Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/turdall/32/217_2.png) [@turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/turdall)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/22 "2016-09-13T13:16:36Z")
> [@Ten Network - Programs and Schedules](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/ten-network-programs-and-schedules/44/830): > > Realistically, the only locally produced programing that Ten (or any network for that matter) would even think about running on Saturday nights are programs like All Star Family Feud that can be recorded in advance. In this day and age, the blockbuster programs will always be reserved for Sunday-Wednesday. Which is understandable. All Star Family Feud is still a big step up from Bondi Vet and repeated movies. They would still need something else to go with All Star Family Feud. Whether that is something like The Project, Graham Norton or, as someone suggested, Law and Order SVU ---
**Author:** ![KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/KICK-IT)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/23 "2016-09-13T13:17:53Z")
Hey Hey and Candid Camera? Oh boy. Not wanting to be dismissive of these ideas but it is 2016 and tastes and trends have evolved. We have to be realistic. Yes Ten needs to do something about Friday 8.30-10.30 and something about Saturday - but they are not going to invest heavily in quality original programming for Saturdays. The viewership or interest from advertisers is not there - the economics don’t make sense. You may get a Family Feud or Bondi Vet type thing, but to think ANY net is going to launch a large scale production like Gladiators or Hey Hey into Saturdays is being unrealistic. I think theme or block programming that requires minimal marketing and promo is the best solution - and reduced commercial loads to entice viewers NCIS block 730, 830, 930 SVU block 730, 830, 930 Movies 7 and 8.30 Something like that,. ---
**Author:** ![turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/turdall/32/217_2.png) [@turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/turdall)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/24 "2016-09-13T13:18:14Z")
> [@Ten Network - Programs and Schedules](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/ten-network-programs-and-schedules/44/829): > > Produce an Australian version of Robot Wars. That also had a decent run on Saturdays (UK version). I am not 100% sure but I think Nine are producing both of these shows, or shows very similar. Nine have Australian Ninja Warrior and Battlebots or whatever it is called (not sure if it is the UK version). Both are ideas, not 100% bought on Gladiators, but Robot Wars is something interesting and different (but could go after that male market that are watching sports). ---
**Author:** ![turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/turdall/32/217_2.png) [@turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/turdall)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/25 "2016-09-13T13:20:22Z")
> [@Ten Network - Programs and Schedules](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/ten-network-programs-and-schedules/44/832): > > and reduced commercial loads to entice viewers I think that is a good idea. They wouldn’t be making much, if any, money of Saturday anyway. So less ads could be a good way to get some viewers back. I just think Movies aren’t the way to go. We have seen them fair not so well so far. ---
**Author:** ![KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/KICK-IT)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/26 "2016-09-13T13:32:24Z")
US cable networks and experimenting with reduced ad loads - the ratings are up in a big way - and they can charge more for the ads as there are only 3 in a commercial break and advertisers are paying more for that privilege. Revenue is up and ratings are up. It’s win win ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/27 "2016-09-13T13:56:53Z")
Looking back at the ratings for Ten on Saturday, this discussion is nothing new at all. In general, Ten’s best results have come on nights with 2 movies that have rated well. To me, a solution would be to get a better movie deal, and stop repeating the same movies over and over. If you look at what Seven shows in Sydney and Brisbane on AFL nights you can see a good selection of popular movies (they all get repeated at approx the same time each year) and these rate well. If new movies are hard to come by, Ten could try getting some iconic movies (e.g. Independence Day) in HD, maybe anamorphic aspect ratio, even limited adverts and make it a “classic movie” night. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_sock](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/34f0e0/32.png) [@yellow\_sock](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/yellow_sock)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/28 "2016-09-13T14:33:50Z")
Some movies worked well on a Saturday night. Others haven’t. Ten just need to find more of a better mix of films to air. Also, the earlier 6-7.30pm slots have been rated pathetically low lately. Which is a shame, as the shows aired are Australian made new content (Bondi Vet; Travels with the Bondi Vet; Far Flung with Gary Mehigan to name a few). Lifestyle shows are dead in primetime (bar Living Room and Better Homes)? The other lifestyle shows are on during the daytime. Could Ten return “Before the Game”? Air it at a consistent time in Melb, Ade and Per (and live on One in Syd and Bris)?I thought it rated reasonably well. That’s the best could do in terms of variety… Gone are the days of Rove-type variety shows. ---
**Author:** ![Seriously](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/seriously/32/489656_2.png) [@Seriously](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Seriously)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/29 "2016-09-14T10:06:17Z")
Surely some sponsored formats could work? I know it didn’t work that well at the time, but wasn’t It’s a Knockout really cheap to make due to the McDonalds tie in? ---
**Author:** ![SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sydneycitytv/32/66248_2.png) [@SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/SydneyCityTV)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/30 "2016-09-14T10:22:49Z")
Yeah, It’s A Knockout was cheap to make because it was sponsored by McDonalds and produced in Malaysia if my memory serves me correctly. Although I think it’s fair to say that Ten (or any network) should **NOT** revive an old format that may have worked in the past. The experience with the revivals of Gladiators, Hey Hey, It’s A Knockout and Young Talent Time (probably other shows too) clearly proves that even though those formats worked well in the “simpler times” of the '80s and '90s, it isn’t the type of programing that caters to the seemingly ever increasingly sophisticated tastes of Australian TV viewers in the 2nd half of the 2nd decade of the 21st century. ---
**Author:** ![littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/littlegezzybear/32/219836_2.png) [@littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/littlegezzybear)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/31 "2016-09-14T10:35:04Z")
Nine, and Seven in the non-AFL states, are also not doing much on Saturday night. It’s just that their drivel isn’t as bad as Ten’s. ---
**Author:** ![JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JohnsonTV)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/32 "2016-09-14T10:41:23Z")
> [@TV.Cynic](#): > > Looking back at the ratings for Ten on Saturday, this discussion is nothing new at all. In general, Ten’s best results have come on nights with 2 movies that have rated well. > > To me, a solution would be to get a better movie deal, and stop repeating the same movies over and over. Ten currently has only movie deal with 20th Century Fox. Seven has deals with Disney and Universal, while Nine has deals with MGM, Sony and Paramount. The Warner Bros deal is on the open market IIRC, so I think Ten should go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Sifon](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sifon/32/65_2.png) [@Sifon](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Sifon)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/33 "2016-09-14T11:26:45Z")
> [@SydneyCityTV](#): > > Although I think it’s fair to say that Ten (or any network) should NOT revive an old format that may have worked in the past. The experience with the revivals of Gladiators, Hey Hey, It’s A Knockout and Young Talent Time (probably other shows too) clearly proves that even though those formats worked well in the “simpler times” of the '80s and '90s, it isn’t the type of programing that caters to the seemingly ever increasingly sophisticated tastes of Australian TV viewers in the 2nd half of the 2nd decade of the 21st century. Going back to the 2008 Gladiators ratings. I think they were quite good even back then with limited channels. > **[Gladiators (2008 Australian TV series) | Ratings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiators_(2008_Australian_TV_series)#Ratings)** > > 1.Gladiators (2024 Australian TV series) If Gladiators was revived now and rated 800k, it would be a success and renewed for a 2nd season. ---
**Author:** ![turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/turdall/32/217_2.png) [@turdall](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/turdall)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/34 "2016-09-14T12:12:27Z")
> [@Sifon](#): > > Going back to the 2008 Gladiators ratings. I think they were quite good even back then with limited channels. I’m not sure if it was the ratings that led to the shows cancellation. I think the cost involved were very high. ---
**Author:** ![Sully](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@Sully](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Sully)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/35 "2016-09-14T12:27:39Z")
Whilst I agree, Ch 10’s ratings on Friday & Saturday particularly are awful, in all fairness… The other networks don’t “smash it” either. Seven are really the only ones who can claim that on weekends, which is well documented. Seven’s strategy of prime-time movies in Sydney & Brisbane (less so Perth) has also been very successful, airing for a long time (share) with Ch 9 not having Saturday NRL rights. But yes, when Ten had the AFL, their Saturdays were much stronger. ---
**Author:** ![TheStyles83](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/thestyles83/32/13031_2.png) [@TheStyles83](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TheStyles83)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/36 "2016-09-14T12:51:49Z")
Ten didn’t want to go back to 1989 when they launch two forgettable game shows on a Saturday night up against Hey, Hey. Hey were The Great TV Game Show and The Price is Right, both beaten badly and never returned. Even I Do, I Do, tried out Saturdays on Ten back in late 1996 and it too was gone. I don’t know what the host of I Do, I Do is doing now. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_sock](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/34f0e0/32.png) [@yellow\_sock](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/yellow_sock)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/37 "2016-09-14T13:02:01Z")
True. Seven has been more successful on Saturdays in non-AFL states (Syd and Bris). They are lucky also to have successful sequels and trilogies (etc) to air, like Pirates of the Caribbean and The Bourne series to name a few. Nine does okay with their movie choice, but could do a little better (and there was a stage when they aired The Voice Encores on a Saturday night, and did quite dreadful too). Then there is Ten. They need a total revamp. Sadly, the Rugby Union is a fizzer! Bad movie choices too. Another option for Ten is to fix up its late night share, since official ratings close at midnight. Currently, all commercial channels give up post 10pm on Saturday nights (well, most nights actually, but that’s a different issue altogether, lol). Seven, Nine and Ten repeat crap movies post 10pm. Ten could air an alternate. Ten can experiment a few random “panel type show”? Like that Fitzy and Wippa special they did last year (on a late Friday night)? As much as I don’t like them, it was a good show. If one of them is a winner, they can air it more regularly, and even earlier? Or even a “Sports Tonight” type show on Sat nights? ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/38 "2016-09-14T14:48:26Z")
Perhaps a revival of this - could be cheap? ![](https://forums.mediaspy.org/uploads/default/original/2X/e/edd0d26fe421aa603cfe4ceb26f3cc88218eafa7.jpg) (what were they thinking?) ---
**Author:** ![parano1a](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@parano1a](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/parano1a)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/39 "2016-09-14T15:17:48Z")
How about an all Aussie night with repurposed content from Foxtel: 6.00 Family Feud Rpt 6.30 All Aussie Adventures Rpt 7.30 Open Slather 8.30 Wentworth 9.30 Tangle 10.30 Satisfaction ---
**Author:** ![KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/KICK-IT)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828/40 "2016-09-14T17:20:45Z")
Buying off cable runs of Foxtel’s dramas like wentworth, secret city, Kettering is an interesting idea Gives ten content Gives Foxtel more money to invest in more drama Exposes the shows to more people who could in turn drive cable uptake on Foxtel Be [Previous page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/tens-weekend-woes/1828.md?page=3)