# Stadia

**URL:** <https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587>\
**Category:** Spy Lounge\
**Created:** [April 22, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587 "2018-04-22T22:34:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Brianc68)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/848 "2024-08-18T11:28:03Z")

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> [@cmo](#):
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> It is an idea that has merit and is quite exciting yet the government up there is determined to put up some shitty renovation of an ancient stadium out in the boondocks. There’s no vision with the mob up there.

Just hold the phone until the October state election. QSAC won’t happen.

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**Author:** ![Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Brianc68)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/849 "2024-08-18T11:30:03Z")

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> [@Expensive\_Horse5538](#):
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> This is the problem - they can’t seem to settle on one thing for very long - I agree the idea has merit, but if they want to deliver on it, they would need to act ASAP.

Just wait till the State election. The current government is toast. The LNP are likely to involve the private sector and something new will be built at either Victoria Park or North Shore Hamilton.

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**Author:** ![TVWest](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tvwest/32/284164_2.png) [@TVWest](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TVWest)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/850 "2024-08-18T12:49:19Z")

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The issue stopping a privately funded stadium for the Olympics is this:

‘One of the underlying principles between the state and Commonwealth governments and the IOC that all venues should be publicly owned’

As good as it sounds, it’s all a publicity stunt.  
The people behind this would already know the requirements laid down by the IOC.

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**Author:** ![Expensive\_Horse5538](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/expensive_horse5538/32/434563_2.png) [@Expensive\_Horse5538](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Expensive_Horse5538)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/851 "2024-08-18T12:51:47Z")

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Could it the privately built, then handed over to the Government, at least for the lead up and duration of the games?

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**Author:** ![VictorianSun](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/victoriansun/32/536432_2.png) [@VictorianSun](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/VictorianSun)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/852 "2024-08-18T12:58:19Z")

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Yeah but american LA venues are privately owned

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**Author:** ![Expensive\_Horse5538](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/expensive_horse5538/32/434563_2.png) [@Expensive\_Horse5538](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Expensive_Horse5538)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/853 "2024-08-18T13:06:09Z")

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Presumably the rule @TVWest mentioned is in the agreement with the QLD Government and the IOC.

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**Author:** ![VictorianSun](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/victoriansun/32/536432_2.png) [@VictorianSun](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/VictorianSun)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/854 "2024-08-18T13:08:54Z")

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Where can we view this document?

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**Author:** ![Expensive\_Horse5538](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/expensive_horse5538/32/434563_2.png) [@Expensive\_Horse5538](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Expensive_Horse5538)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/855 "2024-08-18T13:10:59Z")

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IDK - you would have to ask @TVWest where he got the info from.

However, found this:  
[https://www.thechronicle.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TCWEB\_WRE170\_a\_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thechronicle.com.au%2Fnews%2Fqueensland%2Fpremier-says-no-chance-private-sector-can-build-mega-2032-riverfront-stadium-without-taxpayer-help%2Fnews-story%2F2560ff654156fc30fb545b6568d4aac3&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium](https://www.thechronicle.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=TCWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thechronicle.com.au%2Fnews%2Fqueensland%2Fpremier-says-no-chance-private-sector-can-build-mega-2032-riverfront-stadium-without-taxpayer-help%2Fnews-story%2F2560ff654156fc30fb545b6568d4aac3&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium)

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**Author:** ![cmo](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@cmo](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/cmo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/856 "2024-08-18T20:45:57Z")

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If there’s a will there’s away. As others have said the LA venues aren’t publicly owned. It might be in the Qld agreement with the IOC but perhaps some sort of PPP would be a loophole.

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**Author:** ![Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Brianc68)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/857 "2024-08-18T22:31:28Z")

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> [@cmo](#):
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> If there’s a will there’s away. As others have said the LA venues aren’t publicly owned. It might be in the Qld agreement with the IOC but perhaps some sort of PPP would be a loophole.

I think I read somewhere there might be some agreement between the Feds and State on this, rather than the IOC.

Anyway I’m fairly sure there was private sector investment in the Sydney Olympic stadium. While I believe it is publicly owned the investors got a long term management deal in exchange for investment. There’s no reason Brisbane couldn’t go that way too. At the moment the only reason appears to be a stubborn and desperate State govt trying to cling to power.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/858 "2024-08-19T01:39:55Z")

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> [@Brianc68](#):
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> While I believe it is publicly owned the investors got a long term management deal in exchange for investment.

Yes, The NSW Government ended up buying out the PPP for Stadium Australia after they went sideways. I believe the one for the Superdome ends in the 2030s

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/859 "2024-08-19T09:40:00Z")

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> [@Brianc68](#):
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> At the moment the only reason appears to be a stubborn and desperate State govt trying to cling to power.

I don’t see any of this as all that populist either though. People are either on board with the Olympics and want a good oval stadium as a legacy project, or think the amount being spent even in the cut down plan is still obscene.

The biggest issue with the private plan I would assume is the “let the Government sort out the transport” - which is something the Government did, Cross River Rail has a station at the Gabba! But if you aren’t going to build the stadium there, then absolutely, demolish it, turn it into a high density housing precinct and use the funds from that to build a clean sheet stadium in another spot that’s well connected to transport.

The long walk to Suncorp isn’t great, and there’s a huge benchmark with how well Sydney did it.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/860 "2024-08-20T06:12:28Z")

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> [@Moe](#):
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> But if you aren’t going to build the stadium there, then absolutely, demolish it, turn it into a high density housing precinct and use the funds from that to build a clean sheet stadium in another spot that’s well connected to transport.

i would rather the gabba be demolished and the site kept as parklands. it adds some needed greenspace, it means east brisbane state school can keep a bit and it offsets any loss (probably at victoria park) from a new stadium.

personally i’d like to see a new stadium for a few reasons.

1 is that the gabba is space contained thanks to the roads around it. it already hangs over Vulture and Stanly St. rebuilding would be painful for the commuters who use those major streets.

2 - building a new stadium at victoria park can ensure a seamless transition. cricket and AFL can just move over when the stadium is ready

3 - Vic park has decent public transport links already with the busway with cross river rail the ekka station is going full time. they can build a bridge over from the ekka to vic park to handle the crowd.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/861 "2024-08-20T08:34:17Z")

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> [@Tejas57](#):
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> > [@Moe](#):
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> > But if you aren’t going to build the stadium there, then absolutely, demolish it, turn it into a high density housing precinct and use the funds from that to build a clean sheet stadium in another spot that’s well connected to transport.
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> i would rather the gabba be demolished and the site kept as parklands. it adds some needed greenspace, it means east brisbane state school can keep a bit and it offsets any loss (probably at victoria park) from a new stadium.
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> personally i’d like to see a new stadium for a few reasons.
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> 1 is that the gabba is space contained thanks to the roads around it. it already hangs over Vulture and Stanly St. rebuilding would be painful for the commuters who use those major streets.
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> 2 - building a new stadium at victoria park can ensure a seamless transition. cricket and AFL can just move over when the stadium is ready
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> 3 - Vic park has decent public transport links already with the busway with cross river rail the ekka station is going full time. they can build a bridge over from the ekka to vic park to handle the crowd.

I agree with that. I think Vic Park makes a lot of sense for those reasons. I also think North Shore could work, but it’s between those two. The Gabba is out for the reasons you outline. I do think there might be a compromise though if they demolished the Gabba. Some green space, a slightly expanded school, and a couple of residential towers.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/862 "2024-08-27T02:58:31Z")

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Barlow Park in Cairns will receive an upgrade of around $91 million to host football matches during 2032 Brisbane Olympics.

> However the upgrading of the ground to a 20,000-seat stadium for the Olympics will be temporary, with about 15,000 seats to be removed after the games.

> **[New stadium announced for Brisbane Olympics](https://7news.com.au/sport/cairns-barlow-park-to-be-temporarily-converted-into-20000-seat-stadium-for-brisbane-olympics-c-15844203)**
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> The venue that’s set to play a key part in games events isn’t located in the host city itself.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/863 "2024-08-27T05:43:07Z")

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> 🗣️ "Well you're not going to believe this. The scoreboard here at the MCG is on fire!"  
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> 25 years ago today, the MCG scoreboard caught on 🔥 and this was our coverage as it happened. [pic.twitter.com/kwn0bPtOPw](https://t.co/kwn0bPtOPw)
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> — 7AFL (@7AFL) [August 27, 2024](https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1828293099925446981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/864 "2024-08-27T10:47:31Z")

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lol. What’s the point in that. Is cairns suddenly in Brisbane? 😂

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/865 "2024-08-27T10:49:42Z")

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Sydney 2000 had football at the MCG, they spread the matches to get it all done in time.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/866 "2024-08-27T11:08:11Z")

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They are hosting events across SE Queensland as well.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/stadia/4587/867 "2024-08-27T13:07:24Z")

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The way its going who knows. lol.

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