# Regional TV History (pre-aggregation) **URL:** \ **Category:** Regionals\ **Created:** [July 26, 2019, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188 "2019-07-26T09:32:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/elcapitancranky/32/531872_2.png) [@ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ElCapitanCranky)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1091 "2025-08-10T22:15:04Z")
> [@jcb301176](#): > > What i am getting at had is, had transactions had occurred to set the partnerships in concrete, could there have been different outcomes or would ABT have blocked purchases based on the draft aggregation plans? If it was to consolidate two broadcasters in the same area - I couldn’t see why the ABT would block the purchase. CBN and RVN/AMV were purchased, with CBN and RVN becoming one. RTQ and DDQ/SDQ were the same. TVT and TNT were separated after being owned by the one company. ---
**Author:** ![bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bacco007/32/99038_2.png) [@bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/bacco007)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1092 "2025-08-10T22:37:05Z")
> [@jcb301176](#): > > could there have been different outcomes This is veering into “what if” territory - the reality is we probably don’t know ---
**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1093 "2025-08-10T23:10:53Z")
> [@ElCapitanCranky](#): > > CBN and RVN/AMV were purchased, with CBN and RVN becoming one. RTQ and DDQ/SDQ were the same I think those happened after the “two station” maximum rule was lifted. ---
**Author:** ![ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/elcapitancranky/32/531872_2.png) [@ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ElCapitanCranky)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1094 "2025-08-11T00:05:29Z")
> [@TelevisionAU](#): > > I think those happened after the “two station” maximum rule was lifted. Which I dare say happened out of necessity. The regional stations had to team up under new owners and that rule had to go. Southern NSW had 4 stations - CBN/CWN, RVN/AMV, CTC and WIN. Two had to be combined. Same with Queensland - TNQ, MVQ/SEQ, RTQ, DDQ/SDQ. 4 had to be combined, 5 if MVQ and SEQ weren’t combined earlier. Northern NSW and Victoria - no such issues. GMV/BTV were already under one owner and callsign (RTV then VTV) and had been programmed together for a while. Ditto BCV/GLV. AMV was split from RVN. NRN/RTN and NEN/ECN just had to be administratively combined. NBN was just NBN doing NBN things. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1095 "2025-08-11T00:12:38Z")
> [@ElCapitanCranky](#): > > Which I dare say happened out of necessity. The regional stations had to team up under new owners and that rule had to go And i suspect there was pressure from the big players like Packer etc who were also wanting to expand their networks rather than be limited to the 2 station rule ---
**Author:** ![ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/elcapitancranky/32/531872_2.png) [@ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ElCapitanCranky)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1096 "2025-08-11T00:15:44Z")
> [@TelevisionAU](#): > > And i suspect there was pressure from the big players like Packer etc who were also wanting to expand their networks rather than be limited to the 2 station rule Good point. ---
**Author:** ![shadowmask](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@shadowmask](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/shadowmask)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1097 "2025-08-11T00:41:24Z")
The SES/Six Network partnership was only for National sales, and this was aided by largely similar program schedules. There was also a link from BTV to SES to on-pass programs that BTV obtained from Melbourne, but this became redundant when Network’s programming went onto the satellite. ---
**Author:** ![BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/BendigoTV)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1098 "2025-08-11T03:09:18Z")
Fun fact about SES-8: They lost a lot of their viewership after Vic Aggregation in 1992. A huge percentage of Mt Gambier homes quickly installed high-gain VHF and UHF antennas to receive TV from Mt. Dundas (VTV-11, BCV-31, and AMV-34). Mt Gambier didn’t get their own supplementary commercial channel until 2004 iirc. ---
**Author:** ![Tane04](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tane04/32/348677_2.png) [@Tane04](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Tane04)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1099 "2025-08-11T03:16:36Z")
> [@BendigoTV](#): > > Mt Gambier didn’t get their own supplementary commercial channel until 2004 iirc. That would be WIN Mt. Gambier (aka MGS-41). ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1100 "2025-08-11T05:19:03Z")
> [@Tane04](#): > > That would be WIN Mt. Gambier (aka MGS-41). WIN was already the solus operator… they launched WIN-10 on UHF… mostly a relay of Ten Adelaide. I think only a few Seven Network programs were shown on the main VHF channel as WIN was mostly Nine aligned there as well. ---
**Author:** ![BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/BendigoTV)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1101 "2025-08-11T06:31:42Z")
Worth noting too that MGS-41 on analogue was launched (I think) in the same year that the SES-MGS digital simulcast on channel 32 went to air. It was all happening then! ---
**Author:** ![TheHomeOfMusic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/thehomeofmusic/32/51117_2.png) [@TheHomeOfMusic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TheHomeOfMusic)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1102 "2025-08-11T10:56:19Z")
Southern Cross TV8 wasn’t a “rival” to Six Network as such, they are network partners, the Six and TV8 Networks shared a lot of programming in the early 80s, such as _Thursday Night Live, Showbiz 82/83, Breezin’_ and a few other shows. The Six Network’s saw RVN/AMV as a rival because AMV had a large overlap to GMV’s viewing area, and AMV did not take the above mentioned Six/TV8 programmes. ---
**Author:** ![BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/BendigoTV)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1103 "2025-08-11T23:27:06Z")
There were some notable differences in programming between TV8 and Six Network at times. Often one would be months ahead on episodes of A Country Practice and other serials. In the year or two before Aggregation, there were very marked differences between the two due to contracts with respective Metro affiliates. I probably watched more GMV-6 from Bendigo in 1991 than I did in previous years… ---
**Author:** ![ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/elcapitancranky/32/531872_2.png) [@ElCapitanCranky](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ElCapitanCranky)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2025, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1104 "2025-08-11T23:44:37Z")
Would also have to take into account AMV also had to serve two states as part of RVN/AMV. New South Welshmen are different to Victorians. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![IanG](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/iang/32/3121_2.png) [@IanG](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/IanG)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1105 "2025-08-13T09:28:25Z")
> [@ElCapitanCranky](#): > > Would also have to take into account AMV also had to serve two states as part of RVN/AMV. New South Welshmen are different to Victorians. 🤣 SES 8 Mount Gambier did to an extent too. Could be picked up in Western Victoria ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1106 "2025-08-13T11:49:15Z")
In the few days leading up to aggregation at the end of 1991, there were only a few articles in the “Port Macquarie News”. I guess partly because NBN was the only really new entrant given NRTV already had a good signal from Coffs and didn’t start broadcasting from Middle Brother until late Jan 1992. ![ViewScan_0016](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/9/a/e/9ae9d3eb67bed6739b02686691391fa55fb0651d.jpeg) ![ViewScan_0017](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/9/d/b/9db3c94a145e5e8e0618ddb3605531208015c56e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tvhead/32/160_2.png) [@TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TVHead)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1107 "2025-08-13T12:55:55Z")
> [@ron12](#): > > If it had gone ahead, Geelong residents would have probably put up two antennas, one for Geelong and one for Melbourne, so they could get extra channels like in the Gold Coast. TV down on the Bellarine was always weird. Ghostly C31 coverage and intense ABC interference down in Queenscliff, I remember. ---
**Author:** ![spw68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/spw68/32/537940_2.png) [@spw68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/spw68)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1108 "2025-08-14T00:21:50Z")
I was at uni in Rocky from 1985-1987 and RTQ used Seven National News from Brisbane (I think it was Ian Hyslop, Nev Roberts and Glenn Taylor?) But they also had Good Morning Australia from 10. (I think that’s right?) I’m pretty sure I also recall ACA but perhaps at 7.00pm? ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1109 "2025-08-14T00:28:12Z")
Earlier they had taken QTQ because that was the only option available with just one microwave link along the coast they had to take what SEQ was taking. Later in January 1990 they switched to TVQ on the same day the Bruce Paige started reading 6pm news for 10. ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188/1110 "2025-08-14T00:36:30Z")
> [@TV.Cynic](#): > > they had to take what SEQ was taking. That seems a bit unfair? Who paid for the links? Did SEQ pay more for the rights because they got to choose? [Previous page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188.md?page=54) [Next page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/regional-tv-history-pre-aggregation/10188.md?page=56)