# Random TV History

**URL:** <https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489>\
**Category:** TV History\
**Created:** [January 17, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489 "2020-01-17T16:08:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![K.J\_shakespeare31594](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/k.j_shakespeare31594/32/352989_2.png) [@K.J\_shakespeare31594](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/K.J_shakespeare31594)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2888 "2025-03-17T04:10:47Z")

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Kind of similar to how NBN used to broadcast Newcastle Knights games both home and away with Mike Rabbitt providing commentary until 1998 when NBN aired the Foxtel/Optus Feed for away games and Rabbitt providing commentary on the home games up until midway through the 2003 NRL Season.

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**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2889 "2025-03-17T04:20:32Z")

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> [@IanG](#):
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> ABHN 5A H standing for Hunter. But did the Channel 8 Upper Hunter relay have it’s own call sign or was it just the same

> [@Radiohead](#):
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> I think it was just ABHN 8.

correct

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**Author:** ![Tane04](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tane04/32/348677_2.png) [@Tane04](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Tane04)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2890 "2025-03-17T05:14:26Z")

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ABHN was on 5A and 8?

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**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2891 "2025-03-17T05:22:51Z")

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> [@Tane04](#):
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> ABHN was on 5A and 8?

ABHN 5A (Newcastle) was the primary transmitter, and there were translators ABHN 6 (Murrurundi), ABHN 8 (Upper Hunter) and ABHN 8 (Merriwa)

Source: ABC Annual Report 1984/85

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**Author:** ![Tane04](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tane04/32/348677_2.png) [@Tane04](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Tane04)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2892 "2025-03-17T05:53:39Z")

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Was this a mistake?

 ![Screenshot 2025-03-17 165207](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/8/7/a/87af4d1f6d7d876094fac9d111ab3f1125ec6269.png)

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**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2893 "2025-03-17T05:58:32Z")

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> [@Tane04](#):
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> Was this a mistake?
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> ![Screenshot 2025-03-17 165207](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/8/7/a/87af4d1f6d7d876094fac9d111ab3f1125ec6269.png)

yes

 ![image](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/d/e/2/de2d276ff19885b3946ed8fa686852d9db3d8ab1.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2894 "2025-03-17T06:05:18Z")

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I wonder what was the point of the 5 letter callsigns?

There wouldn’t be any more than a few thousand people in Southern Cross/Bullfinch, so surely they would get the same feed as Central Agricultural?

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**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2895 "2025-03-17T06:40:09Z")

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Same thing happened in QLD - every translator had to have a unique call sign it seemed.

> [@ABC Local Radio](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/abc-local-radio/500/3640):
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> Makes me think back to the times when the ABC TV network was expanding into rural areas. The AB_Q / AB_N / AB\*V etc format only allowed for a maximum of 26 unique call letters. So in Queensland we started to get 5-letter call signs like ABCAQ, ABCLQ, ABCTQ

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**Author:** ![jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/8edcca/32.png) [@jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/jcb301176)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2896 "2025-03-17T23:48:31Z")

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> [@Mechsta](#):
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> Dorrigo is hardly a place of significance.

Another piece of useless information given it was so insignificant, that prior to aggregation, its one of the few places in that area that could receive both 11-8 Television (NRTV) and 9-8 Television (NEN). This was good for people in those areas nearing aggregation because NRTV and NENs morning schedule varied significantly between 9am and midday each weekday mornings and mid afternoon into the evening. from 1988 until 1990 , the only programming these two shared at roughly the same time weekdays were GMA, Midday Show, Days Of Our Lives and Young And The Restless. On weekends it was only Sunday and that aired at the same time as 60 Minutes aired after the movie on NEN from 1988 onwards.

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2897 "2025-03-18T00:07:09Z")

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> [@jcb301176](#):
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> the few places in that area that could receive both 11-8 Television (NRTV) and 9-8 Television (NEN).

Port Macquarie could get perfect reception of both pretty much 24/7, and if you were on the hill on Pacific Drive near say Flynn’s Beach, on a good day, you could probably get NBN-3 as well. Though there were very few NBN-3 antennas in Port Mac.

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**Author:** ![jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/8edcca/32.png) [@jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/jcb301176)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2898 "2025-03-18T01:07:19Z")

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> [@Radiohead](#):
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> Port Macquarie could get perfect reception of both pretty much 24/7

I was more talking on the Great Dividing Range in the fringe areas, but point taken. Kempsey was the same if we are being honest. The motel on the way into town heading north had 11-8 and 9-8 Television in 1987

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2899 "2025-03-18T01:40:52Z")

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Yes, Kempsey as well, particularly South Kempsey and at Fredrickton, a few kms out of town. But no real chance of NBN-3 there though.

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**Author:** ![Mechsta](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/mechsta/32/244653_2.png) [@Mechsta](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Mechsta)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2900 "2025-03-18T03:00:31Z")

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NEN9 would have been very weak in Dorrigo at best. ECN8 would have been easier.

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**Author:** ![BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/7993a0/32.png) [@BendigoTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/BendigoTV)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2901 "2025-03-18T03:19:08Z")

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I remember seeing some tower mounted NBN-3/ABHN-5 antennas just South of Tamworth 30 years ago. Would’ve been very marginal reception, but all that was possible before NEN-9 began in 1965.

It was a bit like that around Swan Hill and Sea Lake/Birchip too before BCV-11 at Goschen began. i.e. Marginal reception of BCV-8, and around Birchip - BTV-6 as well.

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2902 "2025-03-18T03:28:36Z")

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There are still a few of those tall towers around in Tamworth, not very useful these days except maybe for faint Newcastle/decent Muswellbrook FM radio reception, given VHF 3 was in the same FM radio frequency range.

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**Author:** ![jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/8edcca/32.png) [@jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/jcb301176)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2903 "2025-03-18T03:52:54Z")

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True, I wonder how Nowendoc used to go with the channels pre aggregation

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**Author:** ![jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/8edcca/32.png) [@jcb301176](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/jcb301176)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2904 "2025-03-18T03:53:01Z")

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I wonder if ECN had of been allowed to merge with NBN whether NEN would have joined CWN and CBN and if that happened whether CBN might have later demerged and joined MTN. I also wonder se scenarios took place, whether MTN would have been incorporated into the Northern and/or southern regions of NSW respectively.

Or whether the above would have all been disregarded and we ended up with what we have

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2905 "2025-03-18T04:04:57Z")

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> [@jcb301176](#):
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> True, I wonder how Nowendoc used to go with the channels pre aggregation

Not very well I imagine… I had a look on Street View, and I could only see one building with a TV antenna (looks like it’s the local police station \*) and it was mounted on a telegraph pole, way up in the air.

'\* perhaps required to watch ‘Cop Shop’, ‘Prisoner’, ‘Division 4’ etc to keep up with modern policing trends.

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=%213m2%212sen%214v0%216m8%211m7%211s6Nj8G0UKoTl30KqdjPC_rw%212m2%211d-31.5126615%212d151.7163644%213f270.02%214f9.517%215f0.489

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2906 "2025-03-18T04:18:49Z")

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Would it still have been called Midstate Television?

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/random-tv-history/12489/2907 "2025-03-18T04:22:01Z")

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Quite monopolistic if ECN merged with NBN tbh.

Taree residents would’ve been miffed. Pre-Aggregation nearly everyone got ECN/NEN-8, NBN-3 and ABC. A choice of 3 channels, not 2.

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