# Radio History

**URL:** <https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236>\
**Category:** General Radio and Digital\
**Created:** [December 28, 2015, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236 "2015-12-28T07:42:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/523 "2017-04-26T12:25:58Z")

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> [@AustralianAerial](#):
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> I picked up on the list of three AM frequencies in Melbourne that were “previously used by commercial AM radio services which converted to the FM band” - 1116 kHz is still occupied by 3AK, which was to convert under Alan Bond’s ownership but failed to come up with the money.[/quote]
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> At the time (1998), 3AK was still on 1503 kHz. The 1116 frequency was in use back then by HPON staton 3BM (which was basically the same Italian programming formerly on 3AK before Southern Cross bought 3AK in 1994). 3AK switched to 1116 I think in 2001, which then made room for community station 3KND on 1503.
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> > 1422 kHz was never an FM conversion - the former 3XY later morphing into 3EE/The Breeze on 693 kHz (now a Greek language narrowcaster). 1593 kHz is Rete Italia now - was there a former service I’ve missed?
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> IIRC, 1593 was previously ABC Parliamentary radio (pre-NewsRadio days) before it shifted to 1026 on the dial.
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> [quote]Of the two stations that did convert, 1179 kHz (then 3KZ) is now used by 3RPH/Vision Australia Radio, and 1026 kHz (then 3DB/3TT) is now 3PB/ABC News.

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**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/524 "2017-04-26T12:48:19Z")

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From TV History thread:

> [@General TV History](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/general-tv-history/137/1589):
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> Yeah. CBC crashed and burned in Sydney too

I remember CBC rated terribly in Sydney but I don’t think it was as much a car crash as 3AK which was already coming off a very low base. At least 2UE was able to build up from the failure of CBC to become a talkback giant with Alan Jones and so on, 3AK couldn’t get anything to work – talkback or otherwise – until it became SEN in 2004.

What was 2UE’s format before CBC?

And I had an old B&T article somewhere from around the time the first ratings for CBC came out. I’ll see if I can find it.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/525 "2017-04-26T12:55:40Z")

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> [@TelevisionAU](#):
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> What was 2UE’s format before CBC?

It was a talk station but I don’t remember it being as news focused or opinion driven in the early 1980s. They had Gary O’Callaghan on Breakfast and Laws on Mornings before 2GB lured him across with big money.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/526 "2017-04-26T14:40:30Z")

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What station has rebranded as much as:

3DB - 3TT - TT FM - Mix - Kiis.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/527 "2017-04-26T20:47:42Z")

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Smooth in Sydney is a close competitor in only a decade:

- vega - Classic Rock - Sydney’s 95.3 - smooth

Sydney’s changing call signs include:

2SM  
2SM - Lite’N’Easy - GOLD 1269 - KICKAM - 2SM

And:  
2UW - Magic 11 - 2UW - Mix - KIIS

Some stations have never changed their ID. Examples would include 2GB, 2DayFM and 2CH.

Sydney’s Triple M use to be 2TripleM in the 80s so I did not include it. WSFM has removed the “2” as well.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/528 "2017-04-26T22:08:31Z")

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In Brisbane

4IP - Radio 10 - Stereo 10 - Lite & Easy 1008 - 4IP - 4TAB - Radio TAB

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/529 "2017-05-02T11:52:46Z")

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If I recall right was 3CS Colac a country station for a while back in the 80s?

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/530 "2017-05-02T23:27:05Z")

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I’m not sure but would be interesting to know.

I believe 4CD Gladstone (later 4CC) started off as a country station.

4KQ Brisbane was country for a while.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/531 "2017-05-03T00:30:12Z")

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> [@Brianc68](#):
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> 4KQ Brisbane was country for a while.

So was 3UZ for a year or so. Never really took off and then they got the racing back.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/532 "2017-05-03T00:40:08Z")

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4KQ will be 70 this Sunday having commenced in 1947.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/533 "2017-05-03T00:50:39Z")

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Did 2CH change to magic? Or that does not count. They did occasionally say Magic 2CH.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/534 "2017-05-03T06:34:32Z")

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As far as I know 2CH only ever went as far as Magic 2CH without dropping the 2CH. Unlike 4BH which was dropped entirely to Magic 882

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2017, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/535 "2017-05-03T06:37:58Z")

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Although it was de-emphasised a little with the Magic Network branding and even the 2014-16 “Happy Days” branding which came before that, 2CH never dropped the callsign from it’s branding.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/536 "2017-05-04T00:39:00Z")

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I loved listening to this grab from 2SM in 1977 with Ron E Sparx.

2SM was rating over 18% and there are three things I notice that is so different to music radio today:

1. Ron E Sparx is playing Top 40 music and he has a real voice for radio. So many of the KIIS, Hit and Nova announcers today sound like their voices have no broken. Mind you - WSFM often broadcasts without a DJ (last Saturday afternoon was an example). Ron E was also given some freedom to show his personality.
2. It was rare for 2SM to play more than one song in a row. There was an ad break after nearly every song. No wonder 2WS (which came on the scene in 1978), 2UW (which became the New 2UW in 1980 and used the slogan “Better Music and Less Commercials”) and the FM stations were able to eat into the SM audience. Too many ads.
3. The news service was top quality.

I can’t remember 1977 but how good was the music!

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/537 "2017-05-04T01:12:08Z")

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What is it about those top 40 (or CHR) stations today?

You’re right. Most of the announcers sound like little kids on a community radio station screaming into the microphone. And with the same level of skill. It seems to be a very Australian thing. Never hear that in the UK or US.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/538 "2017-05-04T01:46:21Z")

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I agree. It’s not just the top 40 stations either. They’re either high pitched and squeaky or overly bogan sounding these days. UK sounds generally better.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/539 "2017-05-04T01:48:39Z")

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Nova started it!

When Nova started in Sydney is sounded quite different for several reasons (no pun included). One of the differences was that their DJ’s had the voices of your average 16 year old. In the 70s, 80s and 90s music radio (and talk radio) was predominantly deep voices that really resonated. They were voices that belonged on a phone sex service.

Today’s Top 40 radio DJ’s sound like they belong in a Year 10 locker room.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/540 "2017-05-06T09:24:17Z")

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> [@nickatnights](#):
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> Smooth in Sydney is a close competitor in only a decade:
> 
> - vega - Classic Rock - Sydney’s 95.3 - smooth
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> Sydney’s changing call signs include:
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> 2SM  
> 2SM - Lite’N’Easy - GOLD 1269 - KICKAM - 2SM
> 
> And:  
> 2UW - Magic 11 - 2UW - Mix - KIIS
> 
> Some stations have never changed their ID. Examples would include 2GB, 2DayFM and 2CH.
> 
> Sydney’s Triple M use to be 2TripleM in the 80s so I did not include it. WSFM has removed the “2” as well.

in the Wimmera:  
3HS - 3LK - 3WM

Adelaide:  
5DN - FM102 - X102 - AM 1323 - 5DN - SEN - Cruise 1323  
5KA - KA-FM - Triple M  
5AD - 5AD-FM - Mix 102.3

Townsville:  
4AY - 4RR - Hot FM - Hit103.1

Sunshine Coast:  
4NA - 4SS - Mix 92.7

Melbourne:  
3XY - XY Easy Rock - Bay FM/3XY - 3XY - 3EE - 3MP (simulcast) - Magic - Talking Lifestyle

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2017, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/541 "2017-05-06T10:10:09Z")

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> [@nickatnights](#):
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> 2SM was rating over 18% and there are three things I notice that is so different to music radio today:

Thanks for posting this. Can’t believe this was 40 years ago, the year I started school, and Ron E. Sparks is still around broadcasting on WS-FM Mornings and Dennis O’Kane can be heard on 3AW reading and reporting the news. I didn’t realise Laurie Wilson had been reporting politics for Seven way back then, also. So much great music came out of that era.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/542 "2017-05-17T03:35:54Z")

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[http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/radio/ugly-phil-oneil-on-why-he-walked-away-from-the-hot30-countdown/news-story/dfa7878ef28ffcc34d29b8b73f6dc13f](http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/radio/ugly-phil-oneil-on-why-he-walked-away-from-the-hot30-countdown/news-story/dfa7878ef28ffcc34d29b8b73f6dc13f)

> And then, just as he’d decided “I don’t want to do this anymore,” the radio star was approached “out of nowhere” by an overseas station.

> “I got offered a job in London to go and work there and I just needed to get away,” he said.

> Ugly Phil was replaced on the Hot30 Countdown by Kyle Sandilands and together he and Jackie O went on to form one of the most formidable on-air partnerships in Australian radio history.

> As for Ugly Phil, he returned from the UK in 2001 to help launch Nova 96.9 in Sydney.

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