# Radio History **URL:** \ **Category:** General Radio and Digital\ **Created:** [December 28, 2015, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236 "2015-12-28T07:42:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 234
**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4706 "2023-10-18T10:58:29Z")
> [@nickatnights](#): > > And the artwork in those song books will stay with me forever I see them on ebay every so often, takes me back to 1982 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4708 "2023-11-01T07:22:13Z")
Thanks for those, and welcome! I do have fond memories of listening to 3KZ via night skip in Newcastle in the mid 1980s, was a good listen. Sadly didn’t get to hear any of KZFM before it was rebranded as Gpld 104. ---
**Author:** ![dxnerd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/dxnerd/32/404112_2.png) [@dxnerd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/dxnerd)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4709 "2023-11-01T07:53:13Z")
I wonder if 3KZ signed off 1179 with a 3 kHz tone? ---
**Author:** ![TheHomeOfMusic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/thehomeofmusic/32/51117_2.png) [@TheHomeOfMusic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TheHomeOfMusic)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4710 "2023-11-01T08:01:31Z")
“3KZ is Football!” ---
**Author:** ![dxnerd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/dxnerd/32/404112_2.png) [@dxnerd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/dxnerd)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4713 "2023-11-03T01:55:16Z")
Frankster is currently doing a huge 3XY/Bay FM simulcast feature. Unfortunately he had to do a server cleanout yesterday and so most of it has been erased from the site, but you can hear the latest in the series here: [http://franksterarchives.org/archives/1561](http://franksterarchives.org/archives/1561) ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4716 "2023-11-03T22:55:24Z")
> [@mullauna](#): > > With retro formats, that means not playing too much the audience is either not familiar with as adults Which is a shame, i would like to think adults (like me) would like to explore similar songs to what they know. And I just love hearing a great song that I don’t often hear on the radio . But I guess that firmly puts me in the “music geek” camp! ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4718 "2023-11-03T22:59:49Z")
But are not necessarily music geeks or music lovers. I know radio stations like to promote their music as “real music variety” etc but they don’t really back it up and play the same safe 300 songs every week. ---
**Author:** ![theduytv](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/theduytv/32/334258_2.png) [@theduytv](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/theduytv)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4721 "2023-11-04T12:17:02Z")
There’s currently a weekend evening program about lesser-known Vietnamese songs and Oldies on VOV Traffic/91fm in my country. They played a wide range of songs from the presenters’ own personal collection and they insisted that “you can’t even find those songs online or even at the cassette store”, and it can be ranged from adult standards in the late 1930s to softer AC songs/easy listening in the 1980s, and often there are episodes with specific theme, such as Vietnamese movie soundtrack or foreign songs with Vietnamese lyrics. Reviews of the program are very excellent, some listeners have messaged on Facebook telling how joyful they are when they could finally hear that song on radio after 40 years (!). Some even wonder like “where are they now? their singing voice are so excellent, but why they haven’t been performing since?” ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4723 "2023-11-04T22:49:08Z")
Why do you say that? ---
**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4724 "2023-11-04T23:32:17Z")
> [@mullauna](#): > > ARN Regional now owning what was once 7LA and 7EX hasn’t turned out too well, has it How come? I’m not familiar with what’s happened to them? ---
**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4726 "2023-11-05T00:42:11Z")
But what is the problem with the radio stations? ---
**Author:** ![TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV-Expert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4728 "2023-11-05T01:24:40Z")
> [@mullauna](#): > > Even under RG Grundy and MRR, 7LA was listenable enough for a regional station. Then Grant/ARN came and it’s obvious that their priority is the mainland stations. The same could be said for any station that was once under the ownership of RG Capital & later MRR, most of which are now owned by SCA (and possibly soon by ARN if the merger/acquisition goes ahead). ---
**Author:** ![dipper](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/dipper/32/189400_2.png) [@dipper](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/dipper)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4729 "2023-11-05T01:35:00Z")
ARN to their credit has stuck to their word so far since the Grant takeover and left the stations alone. Compared to what SCA has done around the country with their networking of breakfast this week, Tassie amazingly still has 7 breakfast programs over the 10 licenses. No mainland network programming until 5-6pm on all stations. Local networking only done across neighbouring/overlap license areas Burnie/Devonport or Launceston/Scottsdale. ---
**Author:** ![TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV-Expert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4731 "2023-11-05T02:01:17Z")
> [@dipper](#): > > ARN to their credit has stuck to their word so far since the Grant takeover and left the stations alone. Compared to what SCA has done around the country with their networking of breakfast this week, Tassie amazingly still has 7 breakfast programs over the 10 licenses. No mainland network programming until 5-6pm on all stations. Local networking only done across neighbouring/overlap license areas Burnie/Devonport or Launceston/Scottsdale. The reason for why ARN left the Grant stations alone is because they have a clause in which they have to keep staffing at the same levels on those stations for 2 years after the acquisition. We’re now coming up to 2 years since the acquisition, so it will be interesting to see on what ARN will do with its regional stations in the new year, regardless of whether its merger/acquisition with SCA goes ahead or not. Sorry for going a bit off-topic there. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV-Expert)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4733 "2023-11-05T04:00:49Z")
Getting back into the topic of commercial radio ownership, particularly in regional markets, I’ve put together a table of markets that lists stations that were at least operated by DMG, RG Capital & Grant Broadcasters back in late 2003, ie. about 20 years ago. This was only about a year before RG Capital & DMG’s regional stations (except Star 104.5 & Hot 91, the latter soon sold off to another operator) were merged under Macquarie Regional Radioworks (MRR), and also predates Grant’s acquisition of HOFM (now 7HO). ![RGDMGGrant_2003](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/f/8/6/f862a306d4a486ebb1ade252f2ef2f1afaa20c1a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/moe/32/398912_2.png) [@Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4734 "2023-11-05T05:56:25Z")
I do wonder what Nova think back on in terms of how they divested from regional radio, given their competitors have both moved in that direction? I suppose they got out with likely the maximum value they could have gotten from them - the sale price of those stations to Macquarie would be about $300m in today’s dollars, while ARN might end up picking up most of those stations via SCA for maybe a quarter of that - given that all of SCA is now only around $200m. Though for DMG at the time, you wouldn’t really have forseen a time where you’d be wanting a deep integration of their metro Nova stations and the kind of content on their regional stations, given how totally different they were in sound and business model. ---
**Author:** ![webguy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/webguy/32/4778_2.png) [@webguy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/webguy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4735 "2023-11-06T00:58:09Z")
It’s not really the same company though (despite Nova technically being the same company as DMG Radio) given that it was owned by DMGT and sold the regional and metro stations separately. Lachlan wouldn’t have been able to purchase the company if it had the regional stations. DMG were only ever in regional radio to get a foot hold in the Australian market. Their plan from day 1 was to lobby to Government to get more metro licences, which they wanted to buy. Almost amazingly, it worked out for them. Once the metro network was complete they no longer needed the regional stations and wanted to cash out to cover some the considerable cost of acquiring the metro licences. ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4737 "2023-11-07T11:14:24Z")
Luke Bona is live overnights (from 12am) on Triple M. But yep, there aren’t any 40+ something commercial music stations that are live in the evening. ---
**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4739 "2023-11-07T13:26:43Z")
i get your point but I don’t think it is a fair comparison between the potential for social isolation from automated music radio to the real tragedy of 911. ---
**Author:** ![webguy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/webguy/32/4778_2.png) [@webguy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/webguy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236/4740 "2023-11-07T13:34:06Z")
That’s an outrageously wild comparison. Besides, almost every station with automation has the ability for someone to go into the studio, turn off the automation and go live at a moments notice. [Previous page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236.md?page=233) [Next page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/radio-history/236.md?page=235)