# Nine (WIN) **URL:** \ **Category:** Regional and Community Television\ **Tags:** win, nine, ninenetwork\ **Created:** [December 28, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55 "2015-12-28T05:29:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![TheHomeOfMusic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/thehomeofmusic/32/51117_2.png) [@TheHomeOfMusic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TheHomeOfMusic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/241 "2016-02-12T02:05:58Z")
I believe the Seven signal for Griffith, Riverland and South East SA where WIN manages it is sourced directly from Seven and sent to MediaHub where local commercials are put in and sent out to those markets, from what I have seen in the South East, they use the 7 watermarks that look exactly the same as the metro 7’s. ---
**Author:** ![WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/watvvideos/32/246910_2.png) [@WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/WAtvVideos)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/242 "2016-02-12T02:41:54Z")
That would be correct. I made this for a friend a while ago to explain MediaHub. Shows the control desk for their Seven and Ten channels. ![](https://forums.mediaspy.org/uploads/default/original/2X/d/dbe63dcc62cf0b1b6e4ab8f6b54241fc3ff236be.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Aurora](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/aurora/32/249208_2.png) [@Aurora](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Aurora)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/243 "2016-02-12T06:09:02Z")
> [@KICK-IT](#): > > Nine offered the deal. WIN being WIN and basically stuck in the 80s probably didn’t want to pay a fee to be carried on Nine’s platform (which Nine would have spent millions developing) It was WIN that offered to negotiate an agreement, but Nine would only accept a deal where WIN were paying more cash to cover their own arses after overspending on sports rights. ---
**Author:** ![Willwalk](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/willwalk/32/205_2.png) [@Willwalk](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Willwalk)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/244 "2016-02-12T07:36:10Z")
That’s one massive huge playout room in media hub. Well new channels can easily be added to those markets. But that would be up to WIN of course to add them. Is it MPEG 4 ready? ---
**Author:** ![WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/watvvideos/32/246910_2.png) [@WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/WAtvVideos)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/245 "2016-02-12T07:59:11Z")
That’s just one workstation. The facility itself is huge. I imagine it would be more than capable of handling MPEG-4 services. ![](https://forums.mediaspy.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/85f3cfeb6e9c4bb0f5a6597794e34c935732aabf.jpg) ![](https://forums.mediaspy.org/uploads/default/original/2X/b/be22450d49bd49977a744ee507a3e22e0dab4d81.jpg) More photos can be seen at the **[MediaHub photo gallery](http://www.mediahubaustralia.com/#!gallery/c1p9k).** ---
**Author:** ![TV\_Addict](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv_addict/32/317_2.png) [@TV\_Addict](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV_Addict)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/246 "2016-02-12T09:05:59Z")
Why is MPEG4 now being used… when TV’s in Australia started having MPEG4 back in 2009. Should have been rolled out then with the launch of 7Two etc. ---
**Author:** ![Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/moe/32/398912_2.png) [@Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Moe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/247 "2016-02-12T09:09:41Z")
> [@pelican](#): > > So WIN should agree to allowing Nine to stream WIN’s suite of channels via 9Now to regional IP addresses. Simples. There’s not really such a thing as regional IP addresses - some ISPs might narrow them down to the exchange level- but generally you’ll just get your capital city, or even just Sydney no matter what. [https://www.iplocation.net/](https://www.iplocation.net/) will show you how well your location is detectable by websites. ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/248 "2016-02-12T09:19:06Z")
That link shows that it will tell me my suburb, so aligning it to something like postcode to determine whether 9now will give you your local WIN or NBN stream or not shouldn’t be a problem. I think the problem for WIN/NBN would be the cost of providing streams for each local market… ---
**Author:** ![Willwalk](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/willwalk/32/205_2.png) [@Willwalk](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Willwalk)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/249 "2016-02-12T09:33:19Z")
It’s massive, so huge. Because media hub is located in Sydney they probably get the seperate feed from each metro station in Sydney and then decide what to do with it. Is imparja being played out from there as well? ---
**Author:** ![TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/televisionau/32/125_2.png) [@TelevisionAU](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TelevisionAU)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/250 "2016-02-12T10:11:49Z")
> [@TV\_Addict](#): > > Why is MPEG4 now being used… when TV’s in Australia started having MPEG4 back in 2009. Should have been rolled out then with the launch of 7Two etc Because then you’d have had people who just bought new sets being unable to see the new channels. And with so few compatible tuners the channels would have few viewers which doesn’t help. At least now a significant share of households are mpeg4 ready. It was a similar situation when UHF was introduced here. It was a requirement for colour sets made after 1975 but it was 1980 before the first broadcasts began and by then a certain percentage of homes would have had compatible sets. ---
**Author:** ![WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/watvvideos/32/246910_2.png) [@WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/WAtvVideos)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/251 "2016-02-12T11:09:33Z")
> [@Willwalk](#): > > Is imparja being played out from there as well? Yes, they started contracting their playout to MediaHub on 15 January 2015. ![](https://forums.mediaspy.org/uploads/default/original/2X/b/bffbfcbc359ec8fe6b7a2accea94e42c3ceee937.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![southernguy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@southernguy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/southernguy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/252 "2016-02-12T11:38:41Z")
I like how you compared it to UHF, it is a very similar comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Hinca0488](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/hinca0488/32/2055_2.png) [@Hinca0488](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Hinca0488)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/253 "2016-02-12T17:17:36Z")
Yeah, I remember when they changed from Prime7 to 7. They changed the name of the channels from Prime to Seven (I think when they did the first rollout of multichannels (9/10)), and then they changed the feeds from P7 to 7 around the time (within the week I’m pretty sure) when they launched the Seven feeds. I think it took me unaware as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bort](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bort/32/340984_2.png) [@Bort](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Bort)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/255 "2016-02-12T21:42:11Z")
Discussed at length earlier in the thread ---
**Author:** ![bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bacco007/32/99038_2.png) [@bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/bacco007)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/256 "2016-02-13T00:12:27Z")
> [@TVHead](#): > > gotta say I feel for regionals, the networks are getting programming fees from them then undercutting them by not restricting access to those in their broadcast regions. But how do you restrict it? Locking out by postcode is pointless (its not hard to guess a metro postcode) and geolocation by IP is not accurate enough to determine location between metro and regional ---
**Author:** ![ando9185](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@ando9185](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ando9185)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/257 "2016-02-13T00:55:45Z")
> [@Radiohead](#): > > [https://www.iplocation.net/](https://www.iplocation.net/) To show how inaccurate this can be, my location will often be listed as Melbourne when I’m 400+ km away in north west Tasmania. Right now, it’s showing me as Waterloo in Sydney instead, even further away. If I’m lucky though it will show me as Glenorchy which is a suburb of Hobart still 300km away though. IP Location can’t differentiate accurately enough between suburbs or regional/metro areas. This has been with both Internode and Foxtel broadband but I’ve also seen the same inaccuracies on countless other clients. ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/258 "2016-02-13T01:02:23Z")
Doesn’t 9Now ask you to set up a profile to use it that includes a post code and other info? ---
**Author:** ![ando9185](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@ando9185](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ando9185)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/259 "2016-02-13T01:05:57Z")
Yep, they could use that and trust that people put in the right postcode. Interesting though I’ve put in a Tasmanian postcode but it still puts Victoria on the labels. e.g. “Live Now in VIC” ---
**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/260 "2016-02-13T01:07:53Z")
That’s what you would expect for Tasmania - the closest Nine outlet would be provided. ---
**Author:** ![WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/watvvideos/32/246910_2.png) [@WAtvVideos](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/WAtvVideos)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55/261 "2016-02-13T01:09:19Z")
The number of users who would fake their location to get out of area TV would have to be low. There is simply no other way to localise streams. The design of the app/website can be done so that it relies on a GPS location first and foremost, but falls back on a postcode entry if that feature is turned off or device isn’t GPS compatible. For the record, my IP address is always assigned from Perth, which is about 600km west of my location. It gets worse in more remote locations. [Previous page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/nine-win/55.md?page=14)