and so it should be. Is it likely that the bloke will be hanged for it?
From what I can tell, second degree murder carries a maximum of life imprisonment, but I’d expect a terrorism charge would bring it up to the death penalty. We’d have to see what other charges are brought by the feds I suppose…
Virginia has the death penalty by lethal injection.
I’m not all that familiar with degrees of murder (mine is an arts degree, after all), but wouldn’t this be third degree murder?
The charge has been reported as second-degree.
So, considering the ten gajillion protests and violent clashes in the US over the last few years over race issues, and over the election of Trump, is there any reason this is particularly newsworthy other than the fact it’s a chance for “white supremacist” and “far-right” to be repeated over and over by left wing media?
All the vision I’ve seen is of 30 people on a street corner, and a car drove into them. Big deal! There are far bigger crimes that happen in the US every single day - Leigh Sales trying to sex it up and be ballsy by calling it “terrorism” when it is simply a crime, doesn’t really mean it warrants the news coverage in Australia.
Big fat yawn!
I’m saving this quote for the next time this happens with anyone even remotely brown behind the wheel.
Seriously, the news coverage is completely fair, since
a) it mimicked the type of attack used recently by ISIS terrorists
b) it was perpetrated by a literal neonazi.
c) it is another example of growing divisions within the US
d) the President didn’t condemn the violence on behalf of the neonazi himself, but rather deflected by trying to blame all parties rather than just the one party responsible
e) the protestors which were attacked had not provoked a car to drive into them.
f) the neonazis at the protest were wearing actual, legit swastikas and other easily recognisable nazi insignia, and were doing so proudly, in public, in a country which 80 years ago was fighting nazis.
g) a person fucking died
h) it is quite obviously meant to terrorise others from protesting, therefore terrorism.
I’m busy at the moment so will address each one soon, but as I said, big deal. The Australian coverage of this NON-ISSUE is totally overblown.
Someone was killed in the US…oooh!! Massive story. Please!
I figured you’d have something more intellectual than just Nazi apologism Firetorch 
Sorry. I don’t get sucked into far-left media narratives about NAZIS OOOH!!
It’s just so stupid.
A group of dickheads went out to protest.
Another group of idiots went out to fight them because Nazis.need.to.be.punched.
A final dickhead rammed a car into them.
I’m not interested in any of the three groups of losers. And I’m not sure why Australia should be either.
Also, the Nazis were far-left socialist social-engineering idiots that murdered 7 million people and wanted to invade the whole continent of Europe.
A group of tattooed bogans and rednecks shouting about immigration in North Carolina or wherever, are not Nazis. It’s just so pathetically offensive to even link the two.
I seriously think firetorch is nothing but a cold-hearted troll. Hate to break it to you mate, but just because the NSDAP has the word "socialist’ in its title, doesn’t mean it actually was. Nazis have never been ‘far-left’ and the ‘socialist’ part derives from ‘Völkisch’ i.e populism. Their economic policy bares no resemblance to Socialism as a whole and as for their social policy…well…everyone knows.
Sorry, you don’t bamboozle me. The Nazis sort to redefine socialism in a way antithetical to capitalism - government controlled economic and (as you say) social engineering is the very definition of LEFT-WING politics.
Hate to break it to you, but social engineering, or anything that contains ‘social’ doesn’t always equate to “left wing”. Greece’s military dictatorship used ‘social engineering’ and was very clearly a right-wing government, Nazi Germany and big business were often hand in hand (especially trade union busting…sounds very right wing to me).
You’re a shameful individual (i haven’t forgotten comments you made about Sophie Delezio years back).
…you simply ignored the fact I said they sought economic engineering to skip to my second point about social engineering.
Hate to break it to you, but any intervention by the state, including in matters of social engineering, is a classic case of left-wing politics.
That’s too bad because a) I have forgotten who you are and b) I have no recollection of that individual (she may be big news in NSW but quite unknown elsewhere) except for the fact that the commercial networks in Sydney used to love to “use” her.
Oh and one major point on how the left likes to purposely misunderstand people’s reactions to different events (and no, it doesn’t have anything to do with “brown people” as you so crassly put earlier).
People are shocked and upset and want action when a bomber blows up parents and children at a concert, because it could be any one of us.
People are shocked and upset and want action when a bomber brings down an aeroplane, because it could be any one of us going about our normal business.
People are shocked and upset and want action when a lunatic drives through a pedestrian mall.
People don’t stop and think, wow, that could have been me, after a guy mows down someone who has purposely inserted themselves into a dangerous and volatile protest with racist idiots.
Do you get the difference? Because I know the far-left will LOVE to use this one non-issue example as somehow balancing all the actual terrorism western societies actually have faced…“but right wing extremism too!!”.
No. Insulting out intelligence. That’s why respect in the media is at an all time low.
And just to really highlight the bias espoused by those “brainwashed by the far-left media” in recent political news, compare the two examples of politicians “failing to condemn” something, the other being Corbyn and Venezuela.
What Corbyn has previously stated regarding Venezuela’s socialist polices:
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/118806180582801408?lang=en
Corbyn’s response this week:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics-britain-corbyn-idUSKBN1AN1QM
Corbyn’s equivocation in refusing to specifically condemn the socialist regime in Venezuela is concerning because he has actually held the regime up as a model for Britain. An economic model for the world. A lesson for all.
Trump…hasn’t personally tweeted support for the racist murderer. Trump hasn’t held the KKK or white nationalists up as a model for America or the “very wide world”.
So, it seems the left is far more reaching in seeking “condemnation” from right wing politicians that have NOTHING to do with certain events, than it is from far left politicians who have LITERALLY held up the economic policies of a nation which has utterly collapsed into anarchy as a model to be followed.
The nonsense and hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Cue the return to “love”, “coming together”, “healing” and “moving on” instead of anger in 3, 2, 1…
Feel free to continue to discuss anything related to the topic title. The previous discussion and personal sniping is not to continue. Thanks.
As this topic had been discussed here earlier…
The entire far-left news media in the US is currently hyperventilating because Trump said the left-wing protestors that chose to attend the far-right rally were also very violent. No shit they were!
Apparently Trump went on some fully blown defence of Nazism just then? Am I reading this right?