International Politics (non-USA)

I guess this would be the place to discuss the North Korea conflict?

News.com.au is sprinting off the mark.

And some retro nuclear fear from Beyond 2000:

[https://youtu.be/WEftj7C-5H4?t=1446]

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Tbh I’d rather than be cooked instantly than live a few days or months in a post-nuclear world. It would be exceedingly shit.

News story went viral the other day on social media - the reaction from the far-left regarding the fact it was a woman that was assaulted (men are OK to be assaulted) lead to inept British police quickly arresting someone not even in the country at the time to quell the outrage.

A lot of people online are claiming that the driver of the car who ran down a bunch of counterprotesters in Virginia are claiming that the person did it because the protesters surrounded his car and began attacking the vehicle, which sounds kind of credible because of the recent cases where Black Lives Matter protesters have blocked roads and attacked vehicles attempting to pass the human cordon.

But watch the videos, and you can CLEARLY see that it’s a pre-meditated act.

Now a lot of the brainwashed Trumpites are claiming that the person was never a member of the American Nazis, and rather it’s a false flag perpetrated by Antifa.

The person who drove the car has been charged with second-degree murder.

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20776770_256911198150643_583038275579916662_o.jpg?oh=d56634862168009ce4ead2836e36ad35&oe=5A1F6482

(NSFW of course:)

One thing I have to object to is the media reporting that three people died as a result of the clashes on the ground in Virginia. Two were policemen who died after their helicopter crashed due to an unrelated malfunction. Using their deaths to inflate the figures for the sake of a headline seems disingenuous.

British Police paid to post to social media details about an “investigation” into “name calling between children”.

The capture of British public services by the far-left is extremely worrying.

https://twitter.com/SgtPeterAllan/status/894937786394038272

As disingenuous as it does seem, the same thing has been done before - attributing their deaths to the overall event.

Glad to see news orgs calling it what it is: domestic terrorism.

and so it should be. Is it likely that the bloke will be hanged for it?

From what I can tell, second degree murder carries a maximum of life imprisonment, but I’d expect a terrorism charge would bring it up to the death penalty. We’d have to see what other charges are brought by the feds I suppose…

Virginia has the death penalty by lethal injection.

I’m not all that familiar with degrees of murder (mine is an arts degree, after all), but wouldn’t this be third degree murder?

The charge has been reported as second-degree.

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So, considering the ten gajillion protests and violent clashes in the US over the last few years over race issues, and over the election of Trump, is there any reason this is particularly newsworthy other than the fact it’s a chance for “white supremacist” and “far-right” to be repeated over and over by left wing media?

All the vision I’ve seen is of 30 people on a street corner, and a car drove into them. Big deal! There are far bigger crimes that happen in the US every single day - Leigh Sales trying to sex it up and be ballsy by calling it “terrorism” when it is simply a crime, doesn’t really mean it warrants the news coverage in Australia.

Big fat yawn!

I’m saving this quote for the next time this happens with anyone even remotely brown behind the wheel.

Seriously, the news coverage is completely fair, since
a) it mimicked the type of attack used recently by ISIS terrorists
b) it was perpetrated by a literal neonazi.
c) it is another example of growing divisions within the US
d) the President didn’t condemn the violence on behalf of the neonazi himself, but rather deflected by trying to blame all parties rather than just the one party responsible
e) the protestors which were attacked had not provoked a car to drive into them.
f) the neonazis at the protest were wearing actual, legit swastikas and other easily recognisable nazi insignia, and were doing so proudly, in public, in a country which 80 years ago was fighting nazis.
g) a person fucking died
h) it is quite obviously meant to terrorise others from protesting, therefore terrorism.

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I’m busy at the moment so will address each one soon, but as I said, big deal. The Australian coverage of this NON-ISSUE is totally overblown.

Someone was killed in the US…oooh!! Massive story. Please!

I figured you’d have something more intellectual than just Nazi apologism Firetorch :frowning:

Sorry. I don’t get sucked into far-left media narratives about NAZIS OOOH!!

It’s just so stupid.

A group of dickheads went out to protest.

Another group of idiots went out to fight them because Nazis.need.to.be.punched.

A final dickhead rammed a car into them.

I’m not interested in any of the three groups of losers. And I’m not sure why Australia should be either.

Also, the Nazis were far-left socialist social-engineering idiots that murdered 7 million people and wanted to invade the whole continent of Europe.

A group of tattooed bogans and rednecks shouting about immigration in North Carolina or wherever, are not Nazis. It’s just so pathetically offensive to even link the two.

I seriously think firetorch is nothing but a cold-hearted troll. Hate to break it to you mate, but just because the NSDAP has the word "socialist’ in its title, doesn’t mean it actually was. Nazis have never been ‘far-left’ and the ‘socialist’ part derives from ‘Völkisch’ i.e populism. Their economic policy bares no resemblance to Socialism as a whole and as for their social policy…well…everyone knows.

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Sorry, you don’t bamboozle me. The Nazis sort to redefine socialism in a way antithetical to capitalism - government controlled economic and (as you say) social engineering is the very definition of LEFT-WING politics.

Hate to break it to you, but social engineering, or anything that contains ‘social’ doesn’t always equate to “left wing”. Greece’s military dictatorship used ‘social engineering’ and was very clearly a right-wing government, Nazi Germany and big business were often hand in hand (especially trade union busting…sounds very right wing to me).

You’re a shameful individual (i haven’t forgotten comments you made about Sophie Delezio years back).

…you simply ignored the fact I said they sought economic engineering to skip to my second point about social engineering.

Hate to break it to you, but any intervention by the state, including in matters of social engineering, is a classic case of left-wing politics.

That’s too bad because a) I have forgotten who you are and b) I have no recollection of that individual (she may be big news in NSW but quite unknown elsewhere) except for the fact that the commercial networks in Sydney used to love to “use” her.