# Foxtel

**URL:** <https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638>\
**Category:** Subscription and International\
**Created:** [January 18, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638 "2016-01-18T18:25:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 96

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**Author:** ![Nicholas](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/nicholas/32/114_2.png) [@Nicholas](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Nicholas)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1959 "2020-07-17T01:36:51Z")

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When we still had a Kayo subscription we the AFL on a 4K 55" TV, and the 1080p stream looked fantastic.

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**Author:** ![bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bacco007/32/99038_2.png) [@bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/bacco007)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1960 "2020-07-17T06:59:47Z")

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> [@littlegezzybear](#):
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> Interesting story about the woes of News Corp Australia, and specifically Foxtel. One opinion that Foxtel is worth nothing is particularly interesting.

The reality is that the vast majority of News Corp Australia is worth very little, it has been fairly rapidly a collection of “junk” that you’d be lucky to get scrap price for - I was surprised that they kept Foxtel as part of NCA and didnt offload it to 21CF

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**Author:** ![littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/littlegezzybear/32/219836_2.png) [@littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/littlegezzybear)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1961 "2020-07-17T07:19:35Z")

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The Wall Street Journal is highly profitable and valuable. The Times/The Sunday Times have unfortunately been tainted by being owned by News Corp.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/moe/32/398912_2.png) [@Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1962 "2020-07-17T08:30:56Z")

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Is “Streamotion” that they use for Binge/Kayo a separate enough company? Is the idea you load up “Foxtel” with debt, then sink it and Streamotion can carry on with these different streaming options?

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**Author:** ![bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bacco007/32/99038_2.png) [@bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/bacco007)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1963 "2020-07-17T08:42:15Z")

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Streamotion is wholly owned by Foxtel - spinning it off would more than likely require further deals to be done for content

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**Author:** ![ShadowDan](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@ShadowDan](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ShadowDan)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1964 "2020-07-17T09:01:43Z")

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> [@JasonF](#):
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> if foxtel is in so much trouble then why dont they just ditch the boxes and make things cheaper.

Problem with that there are still customers who are still using these boxes. Not a good to to piss off those customers.

> [@JasonF](#):
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> i will go one furthur and say foxtel should put all on there channells on foxtel now and be done with it. and make it say $50 for everything since it would be streaming only and not the box.

Problemnwith that is streaming rights etc. So no it can’t do that.

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**Author:** ![JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JohnsonTV)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1965 "2020-07-17T09:05:21Z")

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> **[Westpac’s Lisa Cronin to join Foxtel as director of customer marketing and...](https://mumbrella.com.au/westpacs-lisa-cronin-to-join-foxtel-as-director-of-customer-marketing-and-loyalty-635123)**
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> Lisa Cronin has joined Foxtel as its new director of customer marketing and loyalty, replacing Lisa Johnson who returned to the UK, Mumbrella can reveal.Cronin joins from Westpac where she was head of personalised marketing, home ownership.The...

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**Author:** ![JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jasonf/32/349220_2.png) [@JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JasonF)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1966 "2020-07-17T10:10:33Z")

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well they will have to do something. they cant sustain the way they atm forever. esp since there in so much debt. unless they do streaming only the only way is if someone buys them out

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**Author:** ![KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/KICK-IT)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1967 "2020-07-17T10:19:03Z")

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Foxtel is a completely different business model to a steamer.

Netflix employs like 6 people in Australia, Foxtel around 1600

Are we all sure we want Foxtel ro become a Netflix?

Producing 11 hours of Australian TV a year?

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**Author:** ![JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jasonf/32/349220_2.png) [@JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JasonF)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1968 "2020-07-17T10:22:23Z")

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well they are allready calling to drop the drama content. and foxtel produce more then 11 hrs of tv a year. if they didnt charge as much as they do know esp during this covid-19 pandemic then they would have more money and have more options like putting all the channels on foxtel now. i cant see foxtel lasting the way the are now unless something changes

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**Author:** ![KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/KICK-IT)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1969 "2020-07-17T10:26:22Z")

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Restructuring multi billion dollar pay tv companies for a new steaming world is a little more complex than you suggest.

DirecTV, Sky, Rogers, Canal+ - all around the world they are feeling the same pain Foxtel is

DirecTV is losing subscribers at an alarming rate

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**Author:** ![JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jasonf/32/349220_2.png) [@JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JasonF)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1970 "2020-07-17T10:27:11Z")

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then what do you suggest foxtel do??/

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**Author:** ![KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@KICK-IT](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/KICK-IT)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1971 "2020-07-17T10:29:46Z")

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I don’t have the solutions to global pay tv companies woes to type here on MS. But this is a global trend that affects every legacy satellite / cable company in the world. And it’s far more complex and difficult than you make it. If you have the solution DirectTV will hire you for a few dozen million a year.

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**Author:** ![TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tvhead/32/160_2.png) [@TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TVHead)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1972 "2020-07-17T11:09:14Z")

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Verizon fios / fetch tv IPTV style delivery is where they should head, they can continue offering all their services without satellite services for most of Australia. It’s also quicker and easier to setup you just mail out a box reducing the cost or hiring contractors to install cabling and satellites

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**Author:** ![TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tvhead/32/160_2.png) [@TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TVHead)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1973 "2020-07-17T11:11:02Z")

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Also cheaper and churn wouldn’t hurt so much with not so much setup costs and infrastructure loss. No reduction in services and they could more affordably add more services without worrying about satellite spectrum, plus do things like virtual channels and better ways to rewind and catchup.

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**Author:** ![JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jasonf/32/349220_2.png) [@JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JasonF)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1974 "2020-07-17T11:12:11Z")

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[https://www.foxtel.com.au/now/box.html](https://www.foxtel.com.au/now/box.html)

something like this ?

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**Author:** ![ando9185](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@ando9185](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/ando9185)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1975 "2020-07-17T11:14:12Z")

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How does it work for those on crappy internet connections? What about those with terrible quotas? While I think Foxtel caused a whole world of pain for themselves by not embracing the NBN simply calling for the cut of satellite isn’t going to be as simple as people seem to be making out here. There will be people who won’t have an internet connection capable or want to upgrade their plans for it.

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**Author:** ![TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tvhead/32/160_2.png) [@TVHead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TVHead)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1976 "2020-07-17T11:15:33Z")

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Like I said you only need 3.5mbps to run HD on Fetch and still use the internet for other purposes. Sure in rural locations you’d need to retain a satellite service but you could perhaps have a cheaper light version of Foxtel for those areas.

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**Author:** ![JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jasonf/32/349220_2.png) [@JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JasonF)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1977 "2020-07-17T11:16:04Z")

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i like ur thinking:D

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/moe/32/398912_2.png) [@Moe](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/foxtel/638/1978 "2020-07-17T11:31:30Z")

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> [@TVHead](#):
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> Like I said you only need 3.5mbps to run HD on Fetch and still use the internet for other purposes. Sure in rural locations you’d need to retain a satellite service but you could perhaps have a cheaper light version of Foxtel for those areas.

All they need to do is sell a streaming box with a locked Telstra sim in it - then they can deliver over 4G when there’s no wired internet, with a small extra fee for that. They could then do network optimisation to better deliver those streaming channels in more efficient ways - the same as Fetch ISPs can do.

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