Federal Politics

Absolutely agree!

Yes he was nobbled from the start but that was his choice. If he’d shown even a fraction of this fight when he was PM he’d still be there probably. And if not at least he would have gone down fighting. The man is desperate to try and redeem his lack of guts when he had the chance.

If I remember right he was fighting pretty hard to keep his position as PM. And if you didn’t know already it seems all Liberal leaders are actually led by someone much bigger. Because they read from the same line and say exactly the same things. The leader of a party isn’t really the leader they are just a figure head. Malcolm is no longer that figure head so can say what the fuck he wants.

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He talked pretty big immediately after rolling Abbott about how he was gonna lead and how different it would be. Then nothing until now.

Pretty much the same as Morrison. Read my post as I said why.

Umm I get it but don’t agree entirely. Yes a parliamentary leader of a party is somewhat of a figurehead but they can and do lead the party at times. Hence they are called the leader. Few could argue Howard led the Liberals when he was PM. Occasionally the leader must influence the party and the agenda. There is no denying Turnbull indicated he would lead the Liberals in a different direction and that is what people expected.

Hahaha ignorance is bliss

So is rudeness and condescension it seems.

You seem to know it all.

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Now you are understanding.

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https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/asio-would-vet-federal-mps-for-the-first-time-under-new-bill-20181204-p50k46.html

About bloody time!

Federal ministers would be subject to ASIO security vetting for the first time under a private members bill set to be introduced to parliament this week.

And of course parliament should pass this ASAP, that is if they’ve got nothing to hide…

Pathetic coverage just looking at pathetic points scoring while completely ignoring the customers that will now be lost to Australian IT companies, and the jobs that will also go, along with everyone’s security and privacy which depends on encrypted communication across the Internet.

How hard is it to understand the abuses which will inevitably follow allowing thousands of police & other government people access - without a warrant! - to encrypted communications, and requiring it to be kept secret!
Not only will there be repeats of incidents like that Qld cop who conspired with a friend to harrass that friend’s ex in violation of a restraining order, but that sort of criminal abuse by police will be kept secret!

You could lose all the money in your bank accounts when one of those thousands of people use the broken encryption which this law will force on us to get your Internet banking login name & password. (The same for online purchases.) How are you going to prove you didn’t do it?

This bad law is ripe for abuse; rather than Labor’s appalling capitulation to the LNP bullying making Australians safer, it’s doing the opposite, and sadly our media are again letting us down by ignoring the real security implications of this shoddy law.

Another sad day for Australia.

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I am just waiting on them to implement the RFID chip then our privacy is gone completely.

Someone please tell this mob that 1984 is a novel, not an suggestion as to ruin our lives.

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Agreed. The problem with much of politics is the majority if not all players are compromised not only by having to toe the line and being reliant on donors to fund their campaigns, but their interest is largely on staying in power (and looking like the good guy) rather than doing what needs to be done to fix the issues in our society. Politicians really shouldn’t be in their job longer than a decade at the most. Do what you need to do to contribute then get out, don’t hang around like a bad smell.

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You’re probably right. 10-15 year political career seems about optimal.

John Key is a good example.

Agreed.

MT declared he wanted to lead a ‘thoroughly liberal’ government - as opposed to a conservative one. Sadly, he lacked the fortitude to do so.

Could Australia support a thoroughly liberal party? Would there be enough votes?

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Another government who makes decisions on the run to win votes, gets it wrong and suffers a backlash, so does a backflip.

Isn’t that all governments and opposition parties?

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Before or after they say they will be different?

They all say they will be different, otherwise if they change their minds and ram things through they’re in just as much trouble too. One of the jobs where they can’t win either way. Governments these days are never favoured over the opposition until they win an election and they’re favoured for a few months then it’s always the opposition as favourites because they can saw whatever they want to be popular but don’t have the ability to change anything.

I’m not sure how far this scandal will rock the government but the assistant minister has resigned.

The story is taken from New Idea and we know how reliable they usually are. :poop:

Is this more of the new standard of reporting from the Nine-owned Fairfax?