# Driving & Traffic **URL:** \ **Category:** Spy Lounge\ **Created:** [December 30, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475 "2015-12-30T04:33:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 111
**Author:** ![mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mubd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/mubd)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/111 "2017-12-15T00:27:35Z")
I think this might be the most appropriate thread to put this in. > [@Digital Radio](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/digital-radio/231/1410): > > Another reason why Holden/GM should be rejected by Australian buyers. Long abandoned their core, trading on their laurels for decades. The Opel and Daewoo based models of Holden are renowned for being lemons and have an extremely poor reputation. Now that their lineup is made up almost exclusively (bar the Colorado) of these lemons, their sales are going to drop massively. Not only that, they are likely going to have to drop the Astra and Commodore far sooner than they expected due to GM’s sale of Opel (which Holden probably had no idea about until it was too late to stop developing the new Opel Commodore). > [@Digital Radio](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/digital-radio/231/1412): > > Off topic, but I read somewhere that future versions of the Commodore may be based on.a Buick. This is absolutely what they should have done in the first place. I’ve been saying this ever since Holden pulled out of Australian manufacturing. I don’t think people would have been as miffed about the end of Australian production if the new Commodore was based off of an American GM car, because the USA is much more similar to Australia than Europe, in terms of geography and car culture (low petrol taxes, sprawling suburbs with little public transport). --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475)._