# Driving & Traffic

**URL:** <https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475>\
**Category:** Spy Lounge\
**Created:** [December 30, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475 "2015-12-30T04:33:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 90

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1807 "2023-12-28T08:19:34Z")

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Agree, I hate doing right turns onto busy 4 lane roads without traffic lights.

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**Author:** ![BrekkyTVFan](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/85e7bf/32.png) [@BrekkyTVFan](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/BrekkyTVFan)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1808 "2023-12-28T08:28:35Z")

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> [@Moe](#):
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> I think I’ve mentioned it before, but I wish Google would have options for simplest route not ‘fastest’ - I would rather spend another few minutes than do a right turn out of a small side street across four lanes of traffic.

Agreed. When I was in Sydney a month ago, my GPS got me to turn right onto Canterbury Road in Canterbury at a stop sign in front of a school in peak hour.

After waiting a minute, I gave up and turned left and did a u-turn at a nearby roundabout.

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**Author:** ![bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bacco007/32/99038_2.png) [@bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/bacco007)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1809 "2023-12-29T03:34:47Z")

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> [@Moe](#):
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> I think I’ve mentioned it before, but I wish Google would have options for simplest route not ‘fastest’ - I would rather spend another few minutes than do a right turn out of a small side street across four lanes of traffic.

Google’s route optimisation isn’t that great - a lack of data and moving towards routing based on their traffic modeling has resulted in it producing some pretty poor routes fairly consistently.

They’re also not taking feedback from authoritative sources seriously either - making it difficult for Councils (and Government) to get errors fixed.

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**Author:** ![Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Brianc68)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1810 "2023-12-30T06:50:48Z")

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> [@TV.Cynic](#):
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> ![image](https://mediaspy-org-s3.s3.dualstack.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/original/4X/7/3/0/730a7ed837259f3bb4eb7fd325dacb187f46094a.jpeg)
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> [Quairading shire erects signs telling travellers to ignore GPS maps including Google - ABC News](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-28/google-maps-sending-people-wrong-way-quairading-shire/103207090)

About time.

GPS’s are often directing people off A-grade highways onto B and C roads because they are marginally shorter distances. This can be really, really dangerous, and something needs to be done about it. Accidents are happening and people’s lives are being put in danger.

For example most GPS’s send drivers heading north to Bundaberg off the Bruce Highway south of Childers onto Goodwood Rd which is a C grade road in parts. Not to mention the actual right hand turn off the Bruce is dangerous with no dedicated turning lane. In theory this route might save 5 minutes but is much more dangerous than staying on the Bruce and Isis Highways.

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**Author:** ![Sully](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@Sully](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Sully)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1811 "2023-12-31T07:55:53Z")

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It’s a big problem, given how they basically have a monopoly on navigation services.

VicRoads recently collaborated with Google Maps to come up with a solution for this festive period’s annual West Gate Bridge maintenance (where multiple lanes are closed on the busiest artery in one carriageway usually for a week or more) and cause long delays, last year outbound and saw hours long snarls and a huge public and social back-lash including media. Google made all routes from the west to the city take Geelong Rd (Princes Hwy through Brooklyn and Footscray) and then Footscray or Dynon Roads in the inner-west into the CBD grid. I think they also forced roadworks icons and a few closed icons on some city exit ramps, just to force the application’s hand and alert via notifications/vocie and maybe picked up by other GPS services.

Completely different this year, one less lane closed, inbound this time, delays seemed minimal and while we’re on it just in the last hour or so all finished ahead of schedule, as they say below Happy NY!: 🥳

[https://twitter.com/VicTraffic/status/1741347280110686704?s=19](https://twitter.com/VicTraffic/status/1741347280110686704?s=19)

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1812 "2024-01-03T03:39:58Z")

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Drove the Rozelle Interchange in Sydney today, and even with the streets being fairly quiet, I saw people still making last minute lane changes at intersections.

The newly upgraded Qantas Drive from the INTL terminal to the Domestic terminal is a nice drive too. The roadworks in the other direction aren’t finished yet.

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**Author:** ![jason120au](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9e8a1a/32.png) [@jason120au](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/jason120au)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1813 "2024-01-03T06:56:35Z")

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I drove it the other day and ended up going through the toll when I didn’t want to. But the road was good from what I saw.

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**Author:** ![JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jbar/32/151177_2.png) [@JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JBar)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1814 "2024-01-03T07:26:22Z")

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Sure. But the problem still exists for people from Balmain and Rozelle who can’t get on the riads easily because of changes to onramps. A friend of mine travels from Bailmain to Eveleigh every day. The trip took 15 minutes before the changes but takes 35-40 minutes now.

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**Author:** ![JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JohnsonTV)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1815 "2024-01-05T00:01:10Z")

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Ford Ranger was Australia’s top-selling new car in 2023, ending Toyota HiLux’s seven-year streak, however Toyota remains the country’s best-selling automotive brand.

> **[Toyota tops Aussie sales charts, again](https://goauto.com.au/news/toyota/toyota-tops-aussie-sales-charts-again/2024-01-05/92723.html)**
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> Toyota takes first place on the Aussie sales ladder again in 2023, but can it hold on in 2024?

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**Author:** ![Sully](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/48db29/32.png) [@Sully](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Sully)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1816 "2024-01-05T22:29:31Z")

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I love how Melburnians flock down the Peninsula on any given weekend and/or nice weather day over summer like clockwork…

Given yesterday was crazy in 27, it’s 31 today, so did a quick check of Google Maps Traffic and the Mornington Peninsula Freeway already congested at Cranbourne Rd at **9am** on a **Saturday** 😅

Other usual suspect holiday/day trip spots like the Great Ocean Rd and Phillip Island also cop it, as well as the city in general and occasionally attractions in Yarra Valley, Gippsland and routes to Ballarat/Sa, Bendigo/Mildura and Goulburn Valley/Murray/Nsw.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Cee1](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Karen\_Cee1](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Karen_Cee1)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1817 "2024-01-06T03:41:34Z")

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It’s like in Brisbane when the M1 to the Gold Coast or the Bruce Highway to the Sunny coast are congested in school holidays and really hot days when people want to go to a beach

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**Author:** ![Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Brianc68)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1818 "2024-01-06T04:19:24Z")

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> [@Karen\_Cee1](#):
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> It’s like in Brisbane when the M1 to the Gold Coast or the Bruce Highway to the Sunny coast are congested in school holidays and really hot days when people want to go to a beach

I’d say the Bruce to the SC is congested pretty much every weekend regardless of the weather 😃

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**Author:** ![TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tv.cynic/32/316932_2.png) [@TV.Cynic](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV.Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1819 "2024-01-09T00:29:35Z")

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Interesting reasoning behind the uptake of larger vehicles.

> **[Australians have ditched the sedan for the SUV. Should government intervene...](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-09/australian-cars-getting-bigger-should-government-intervene/103287604)**
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> Australia has a big car habit, and those cars often cause more road damage, pollute more and pose greater road safety risks. But advocates for reform say current tax laws actually incentivise Australians to buy big.

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**Author:** ![bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/bacco007/32/99038_2.png) [@bacco007](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/bacco007)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1820 "2024-01-09T07:38:34Z")

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> Australia has a big car habit, and those cars often cause more road damage

No, they don’t - I wish they’d stop peddling this line. There are lots of reasons why we should be trying to encourage people into more appropriately sized cars, but this aint one.

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**Author:** ![AustralianAerial](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/australianaerial/32/427176_2.png) [@AustralianAerial](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/AustralianAerial)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1821 "2024-01-09T08:39:49Z")

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Bring back station wagons.

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**Author:** ![captaincupcake](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/captaincupcake/32/455912_2.png) [@captaincupcake](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/captaincupcake)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1822 "2024-01-09T08:41:28Z")

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And real utes, not these American pickup trucks that are in some cases nearly big enough to have their own postcode.

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**Author:** ![AustralianAerial](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/australianaerial/32/427176_2.png) [@AustralianAerial](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/AustralianAerial)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1823 "2024-01-09T08:43:01Z")

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God gave us three cars - the Holden Gemini, the Holden Commodore and the Holden Crewman. We must go back.

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**Author:** ![JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jbar/32/151177_2.png) [@JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JBar)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1824 "2024-01-09T08:46:18Z")

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> [@AustralianAerial](#):
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> Holden Crewman

😲 I’ve never heard that name before.

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**Author:** ![JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9dc877/32.png) [@JohnsonTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JohnsonTV)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1825 "2024-01-09T09:13:26Z")

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I have heard of it. It was made in mid 2000s.

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**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/driving-traffic/475/1826 "2024-01-09T09:38:51Z")

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And the the Sandman! Iconic!

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