I may be wrong but in June/July last year had any of the vaccines been given the green light? I thought they were all still in trials. We had the vaccine being tested at Qld University and also AstraZeneca, both of which wouldâve been produced in Australia. We now know that the QU vaccine failed the trials and AZ had the TTS issue, but when Pfizer initially approached us had it even passed their trials?
they were still in trials, but why would that matter?
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This is correct.
The main criticism is less about the potential efficacy / success of the trials at the time, but that the federal government had a very narrow focus on the UQ and AZ vaccines only, when other governments that were more successful at vaccinating their populations in a more timely manner had ordered 5 or 6 vaccine candidates.
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At the time countries were signing deals for something that may not pass the trial process (hence why many did deals for many vaccines to spread the risk) - we tried to spread the risk and wasnât successful
Pfizer (at the time) could have been considered a greater risk too - it was a new type of vaccine that at that stage was in early testing with little knowledge about it, AZ and UQ were a more traditional style of vaccine
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It wasnât, Pfizer was the frontrunner from early in the pandemic. Every other developed country knew and took action, every armchair analyst knew. Why didnât Greg Hunt?
Who knows. I guess hindsight is a wonderful thing but it wouldâve definitely made sense to purchase from multiple companies. That said, didnât the US mainly use Pfizer? I know they spent a huge amount of money so theyâd be one of the first countries to receive the vaccine, so perhaps knowing that we wouldnât get the vaccine straight away was a deterrent?
The results of the early trials were not published until after we had signed any deal
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Has Scott Morrison faced the media over his trip to Sydney and then vaccine allocations? Or has he booked a timely business trip to the US?
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10 News First reported tonight a press conference was scheduled later this afternoon but was canceled due to time constraints.
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More like trying to figure out which excuse to use
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Canât understand this. Outdated thinking even pre Delta. Anyone still talking of zero is nieve and uneducated.
Hey @KICK-IT do you have the governments covid safe app in the Uk? Is it compulsory? A friend was telling me tonight a story of someone in the UK that had been using it and was on public transport. She has been âpingedâ as a closed contact 3 times in the last month and has had to self isolate for 10 days even though she is vaccinated. She has apparently decided to delete the app as she canât afford to keep taking 10 days off work.
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I was just talking to this about a friend. I wonder what this will mean here in Australia in the next 12 months. I donât think I am going to enjoy my $2,000 tax returnsâŚ
Her story sounds correct.
No, you donât have to have it. In fact stories broke in June of govt ministers deleting the app as they didnât wanna get pinged and have to isolate and risk not being able to take their European June summer getaway to France Spain Portugal or Greece. It was at that time I deleted the app too. As I refuse to play by the rules of the people making the rules donât feel the need to play by them
However as of august 16 if you are vaccinated and get pinged you donât have to isolate. So she has that part wrong.
I got emailed and texted on in july to say I was in close contact of a positive case and I had to isolate 10 days. I called the NHS to ask where and what date and I was told it was my flight from Madrid to london 9 days ago. I had deleted the app following the governments lead so I asked how they knew to contact me. I was told the airline manifest.
âSo it was 9 days ago I was exposed, how long do I need to islote now?â I asked
Just 1 day they told me!
Great system 
I was walking around london for 9 days!
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No doubt weâll get a nice big COVID Levy charged to pay for it for five to ten years.
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In the US - students without masks enter school against the school board mandate.