# COVID-19: Discussion (2022 Onwards)

**URL:** <https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200>\
**Category:** Spy Lounge\
**Tags:** coronavirus, covid-19\
**Created:** [December 31, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200 "2021-12-31T00:24:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jasonf/32/349220_2.png) [@JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JasonF)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2518 "2023-01-18T00:29:30Z")

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From today Queensland’s covid-19 traffic light status is being downgraded from amber to green

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**Author:** ![Troiboi](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/troiboi/32/482503_2.png) [@Troiboi](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Troiboi)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2519 "2023-01-18T00:37:05Z")

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> [@MrJ](#):
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> Did anyone else have a really lucid dream the night before testing positive

I have heard talk about dreaming when positive. I had that too, but then I dream all night long, every night… (its exhausting).

Hope you’re feeling better soon!

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**Author:** ![captaincupcake](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/captaincupcake/32/455912_2.png) [@captaincupcake](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/captaincupcake)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2520 "2023-01-18T02:23:53Z")

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> [@MrJ](#):
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> I tested positive for the first time today. My symptoms are much worse than everyone else that has had it once or twice before.

Wishing you a speedy recovery, and hope you start to feel better soon.

I do think people take for granted that it can affect others differently to themselves and these days there is almost a dismissive attitude from a lot of people based on them having a milder case.

When I had it mid last year, I found the main unique symptom to be a particularly sharp barking cough (different to when I have a standard cold).

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**Author:** ![JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jasonf/32/349220_2.png) [@JasonF](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JasonF)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2521 "2023-02-08T00:31:34Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/theage/status/1623116091718512640>

The federal government on Tuesday night accepted the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation’s updated advice, which comes into effect on February 20 and prefers Omicron-specific mRNA booster vaccines. However, it said all available COVID-19 vaccines would provide a benefit.  
The ATAGI experts particularly recommended everyone at risk of severe illness – considered to be those aged 65 and over as well as younger adults with comorbidities, disability or complex needs – line up for an additional jab.  
The new advice does not guarantee Australians will be able to receive a new booster every six months – further recommendations will be determined based on ATAGI’s surveillance of infection rates, new variants and vaccine effectiveness.

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**Author:** ![FootyKick](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/45deac/32.png) [@FootyKick](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/FootyKick)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2522 "2023-02-08T07:05:53Z")

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‘Fit and healthy people are dropping down with heart issues’: Karl Stefanovic blasts fifth booster call

[https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/fit-and-healthy-people-are-dropping-down-with-heart-issues-karl-stefanovic-blasts-fifth-booster-call/news-story/2646a600edbb8359c95f363e1c371f3a](https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/fit-and-healthy-people-are-dropping-down-with-heart-issues-karl-stefanovic-blasts-fifth-booster-call/news-story/2646a600edbb8359c95f363e1c371f3a)

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**Author:** ![spw68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/spw68/32/537940_2.png) [@spw68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/spw68)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2523 "2023-02-08T07:56:53Z")

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What a dick.

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**Author:** ![Nathan\_Kiamco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/nathan_kiamco/32/318256_2.png) [@Nathan\_Kiamco](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Nathan_Kiamco)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2524 "2023-02-08T08:13:47Z")

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Yikes 😬

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**Author:** ![JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jbar/32/151177_2.png) [@JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JBar)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2525 "2023-02-08T08:37:29Z")

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Cuckoo. 🤪

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**Author:** ![David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/David)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2526 "2023-02-08T08:41:47Z")

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I dunno. I’m certainly no anti vaxxer but he has a point. There’s no other vaccines that we take in our lives so regularly so why is this one different? How much is too much?

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**Author:** ![foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/foxyrover/32/272518_2.png) [@foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/foxyrover)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2527 "2023-02-08T08:42:49Z")

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Flu? Childhood?

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**Author:** ![David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/David)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2528 "2023-02-08T08:43:50Z")

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Yeah childhood vaccines but after that’s about it in the grand scheme of things. Flu vaccines and whooping cough every now and then but again, certainly not as frequently as they want us to take the COVID one.

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**Author:** ![foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/foxyrover/32/272518_2.png) [@foxyrover](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/foxyrover)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2529 "2023-02-08T08:46:14Z")

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Just put your tinfoil hat on and go back to your Telegram group

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**Author:** ![JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/jbar/32/151177_2.png) [@JBar](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/JBar)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2530 "2023-02-08T08:48:28Z")

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A lot of people have the flu vaccine every year, especially the elderly and those susceptible.

I started having them about ten years ago. On year. I worked in an office where we had pods of six people facing each other. The flus just ran rampant every winter. I didn’t have it one year and I ended up having the flu four times that year.

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**Author:** ![David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/David)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2531 "2023-02-08T08:51:06Z")

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🙄 Great chat.

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**Author:** ![David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/David)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2532 "2023-02-08T08:51:58Z")

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That’s fair. It just feels different with COVID. Maybe cause it’s new, I’m not sure. I just don’t think having it every 6 months is good yet.

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**Author:** ![Drew\_1981](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@Drew\_1981](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Drew_1981)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2533 "2023-02-08T09:06:01Z")

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It’s a Mrna vax which has the side affect of myocarditis. I’m glad he’s pointing it out. You seem to be the devil when you don’t agree with the majority

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**Author:** ![tvnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tvnews/32/226535_2.png) [@tvnews](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/tvnews)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2534 "2023-02-08T09:29:50Z")

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> [@FootyKick](#):
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> ‘Fit and healthy people are dropping down with heart issues’: Karl Stefanovic blasts fifth booster call
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> [https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/fit-and-healthy-people-are-dropping-down-with-heart-issues-karl-stefanovic-blasts-fifth-booster-call/news-story/2646a600edbb8359c95f363e1c371f3a](https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/fit-and-healthy-people-are-dropping-down-with-heart-issues-karl-stefanovic-blasts-fifth-booster-call/news-story/2646a600edbb8359c95f363e1c371f3a)

It’s completely reasonable to ask questions. That’s Karl’s job.

It’s a matter of public record that some people have suffered adverse events or developed chronic conditions such as myocarditis. Pfizer is open about this and it’s on the public record.

The question is, was it Covid that caused the condition to develop? or the vaccination? or a result of people neglecting their heart health at the height of the pandemic? (missed GP appointments, lack of specialist referrals etc). It’s likely a combination of these, but there is a lack of nuance in public debate.

I don’t think we should shutdown journalists or label them anti vaxxers for asking a question.

We live in the real world and know there is also an obvious profit motive from pharmaceutical companies. That’s their job.

I’ve had the vaccine and the booster. Individuals can continue to choose whether they proceed with further vaccinations and should do so with as much info as possible.

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**Author:** ![TFTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/tftv/32/14587_2.png) [@TFTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TFTV)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2535 "2023-02-08T09:54:09Z")

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I was hospitalised after my first vax and still had to get the second after my employer didn’t recognise any exemption at that point. Terrible time.

Didn’t recurve any after that and am completely understanding of Karl’s comments.

It actually makes me feel sick when people call people conspiracy theorist or anti vaxers because they raise genuine questions.

Am I a conspiracy theorist because I don’t want a third jab after being hospitalised after my first?

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**Author:** ![Nicholas](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/nicholas/32/114_2.png) [@Nicholas](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Nicholas)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2536 "2023-02-08T10:44:12Z")

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Same scenario with some people I know who have had clear side effects days after getting the vaccine, one hospitalised with heart issues.

Definitely not riding them off - they play their part in protecting the vulnerable - but it is naive not to question them at all.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_TV7](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@Tom\_TV7](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Tom_TV7)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/covid-19-discussion-2022-onwards/19200/2537 "2023-02-08T10:59:59Z")

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> [@TFTV](#):
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> people call people conspiracy theorist or anti vaxers because they raise genuine questions.

Yes there is a genuine difference between those who are concerned that vaccines may have unintended side effects but understand its importance vs those who call vaccines ‘5G devices’ and call those who implement it as people authoritarian dictators and that it is Armageddon as we know it. It is important for everyone to distinguish these differences.

The way Karl framed his perspective may have come off as a bit arrogant but otherwise I don’t see many issues with him talking about genuine issues related to the vaccine’s nature.

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