Binge

It’s no different to Foxtel.

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You Mean the content?

Foxtel is a linear cable / satellite service about $50 a month

Foxtel now is a streaming linear service of 60 channels for $25

Binge is not linear and $10 a month

Other than content, binge is closer to Stan and Netflix than Foxtel or Foxtel now

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It’s linear PLUS all the same content as binge being able to be streamed.

Binge is being panned nearly everywhere by the public commenters in forums etc. People don’t want it and there isn’t the demand for another streaming service especially from the likes of foxtel and news corp.

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You mean they same 10
Millón Australians that read news Corp papers And Websites every day? Or the 9 million that watch foxtel? Or the 100,000-500,000 that make Sky And fox sports the #1 Pay channels and fox sports ?

I think primarily foxtel now is a cheaper linear version of foxtel. And all cable providers have on demand content. It’s also $25

Binge is clearly a streamer and at $10 it’s more than half price

So if it’s the same content for less than half price on a new Interface? What’s the problem.?

Foxtel is dying and they need to compete in this space. They need evolve the business

Are you suggesting they should find new content that already isn’t signed up somewhere? Or not evolve or get into streaming at all? What would you like them to do?

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9 million Australians have Foxtel? In what universe is that happening?

Please, 100K people watch ABC News SA in Adelaide and Sky is doing well if a single show reaches 100k nationally. If a FTA tentpole series got 500k it would be deemed a failure. Don’t overestimate News’ audience.

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Foxtel is in about 3 million homes, with 3 million people per average household that is 9 million people regularly consuming Foxtel

You conveniently ignore context. Pay TV has 30 % penetration with people who have it dividing viewing between 120 channels instead of 20. sky and fox regularly have 10-15 of the top shows. Yes 100k is small compared to FTA. But 1 millón FTA is small compared to 10 million FTA in the US. But context…: they are 2 different universe

But the point remains. If Australians hate foxtel and News Corp, why - from the top selling newspapers in the country - to news.com.au to Foxtel with 3 millón subs - why do Aussies en masse Pat for News Corp products when people claim aussies will avoid binge because it’s News Corp?

Seems a stretch to me.

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About $120 a month if you want the packages with the most content and sport.

Ridiculously overpriced to be honest but I’m willing to pay lol - however with the launch of Binge I will probably cut down my packages with Foxtel.

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Its the involvement of the Murdochs that drives a lot of the hatred

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What do you get out of Foxtel?

If people hate Murdoch so much as people on media spy claim, why do aussies consume his media empire n masse and Make him rich?

Or is this just media spy outrage?

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Like a lot of things in life (football teams, holden or ford, choice of supermarket etc) - people have a wide range of opinions on a matter and those opinions will impact whether someone will interact with the thing or not (depending on how strongly they hold that opinion) - in this case, there is still a lot of the population that dont hold strong enough opinions to boycott NewsCorp related entities, however the anti-Murdoch sentiment is something that i’ve noticed is growing (but it can be hard to quantify).

One of the things that continually surprises me is that there are a lot of people that i’ve come across that don’t like the Murdochs, but have no idea that they have such a widespread empire in this country - so they are more than happy to consume news from their papers (or online) not knowing.

No - surprisingly, its fairly limited here (that i’ve seen) - look at Twitter or Reddit if you really want to see it.

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Well said. I think people sometimes forget that News Corp has a virtual monopoly on newspapers in four capital cities and many regional areas.

As for their success online, I personally wouldn’t be overly surprised if a reasonably significant proportion of Australians aren’t aware that news.com.au was owned by News Corp and the site gets its success simply because of its url and other factors, such as news.com.au being the first thing that comes up if you put “news” into the search function of Google Australia!

Just like the newspapers, the main reason Foxtel does OK (or has done OK in the past) is because they’re Australia’s only Pay TV platform and have been for some years now - nationally since the Foxtel/Austar merger, but pretty much since the Early 2000s in metropolitan markets when Optus Television stopped being a legitimate competitor and essentially became Optus via Foxtel after the demise of C7 Sport.

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Yes. I’d say the majority of the population have no idea who owns each bit of media, in Australia.

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I’d argue that monopolising the subscription industry hasn’t contributed favorably to growth, what it did do was ensure that the industry survived - but Foxtel hasn’t really moved with the times - a more agile streaming (especially for entertainment and movies content) industry will strangle the market.

Foxtel have paid handsomely for content (often overpaying) to try and attract subscribers to limited affect - that money is a large reason why sports like the A-League and Super Rugby are able to exist - but as time get tough (COVID aside), we’ve already seen that Fox are willing to drop them like you inevitably drop the $18 hot pie you balance on top of the rest of the food & drink (in that expensive small box you buy) that you’ve had to mortgage your house to buy when you attend one of these sports.

This has had the impact of making Foxtel expensive and reasonably poor value for what you get (despite some of the premium content)

Rather than using the move away from Cable to transition to IPTV delivery, Foxtel are going stagnate around an offering that is satellite only and make piecemeal entrances into the streaming market.

Australia has one of the worlds lowest subscription penetration rates, despite having access to some of the best content (often exclusively) and it wont improve from here.

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Ah yes, kick-it displaying their famous on the pulse understanding of Australia and the Australian market.

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Point me to the evidence that Australians hate News Corp. Other than comments by us media nerds on MediaSpy and other media sites

Australians happily pay for consume and consume News Corp media en masse

So it must me a case of false outrage or hypocrisy

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So your argument is Australians hate News Corp but don’t know what media businesses News Corp runs in Australia and un-knowingly consume it.

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I don’t like the Australian or Sky News’ content and political and social leanings at all. So I don’t consume it. But I can tell very quickly it’s not for me.

So all these people who buy and read the daily tele, Herald sun, news.com.au, Sky News etc… they are happy to consume this news content leaning this way. It’s pretty obvious after reading / watching their product, to know their stance on the world

So who owns it is a bit irrelevant. If you Don’t like the rubbish they spin and even hate it, why would you keep consuming it?

And if you don’t know what media news Corp produced in Australia, why hate them?

Im just trying to understand this argument

You could go on sky’s social pages and the australian’s and see all the hate for ABC. But the national ratings don’t reflect that. As it’s just one particular demo that hates the abc.

I think it’s possibly the same with News Corp.

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