# 2CH Sydney **URL:** \ **Category:** Major Metropolitan Radio\ **Created:** [December 28, 2015, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123 "2015-12-28T06:06:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/littlegezzybear/32/219836_2.png) [@littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/littlegezzybear)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/584 "2018-11-10T01:56:02Z")
I’ve listened to them all for fifty plus years and I have never noticed any difference in the reception of 2GB, 2UE, 2KY, 2CH and 2SM. ---
**Author:** ![SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/sydneycitytv/32/66248_2.png) [@SydneyCityTV](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/SydneyCityTV)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/585 "2018-11-10T02:00:24Z")
> [@TheStyles83](#): > > If Only BOG could buy 2CH and share news Services with 2SM, 1170 is a Stronger Frequency for Ratings anyway if BOG do buy 2CH, The 60’s and 70’s Music would go to 1269 and 1170 WOuld Become a Hybrid Talk/Lifestyle Station. Why? Knowing SRN/BOG, they’d probably just run their “FM network” format (excluding the syndicated Kate, Tim & Marty + Kyle & Jackie O programs for obvious reasons) on one frequency and the existing 2SM programming on the other. Although 2CH isn’t perfect the way it is now, I personally don’t think a 2CH/2SM duopoly would be in the best interests of Sydneysiders. > [@TelevisionAU](#): > > is there that much difference between 1170 and 1269 in terms of signal? In the overall grand scheme of things, probably not because both stations have their AM transmitter sites at Homebush. 2CH might get slightly better coverage in marginal reception areas, but there’s no discernible difference between the 1170AM signal and that of 2SM on 1269AM in this location (admittedly, one that’s relatively close to the Homebush transmitters). ---
**Author:** ![Laoma](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Laoma](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Laoma)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/586 "2018-11-10T03:44:01Z")
2gb and 2ue are definitely better than 2sm from a coverage area prospective. 2ch not so sure. Our friends in Newcastle will be able to confirm. ---
**Author:** ![dxnerd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/dxnerd/32/404112_2.png) [@dxnerd](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/dxnerd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/587 "2018-11-10T07:55:15Z")
I’ve found 2SM’s signal to be the weakest of the Sydney (Homebush) stations when DXing from further afield. ---
**Author:** ![Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Brianc68](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Brianc68)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/588 "2018-11-10T12:03:32Z")
> [@Laoma](#): > > 2gb and 2ue are definitely better than 2sm from a coverage area prospective. 2ch not so sure. Our friends in Newcastle will be able to confirm. I haven’t lived in Sydney since 1999 but I do recall thinking 2SM sounded weaker than the others, including 2CH. I’m sure technically it shouldn’t be (?) but I distinctly remember wondering why 2SM didn’t seem as strong at the time. ---
**Author:** ![gordo92](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gordo92](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/gordo92)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/589 "2018-11-10T12:26:34Z")
My guess would be that 2GB and 2UE have the modulation set higher then 2CH and 2SM hence why they seem they get out better ---
**Author:** ![Richo](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/richo/32/86382_2.png) [@Richo](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Richo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/590 "2018-11-10T21:05:44Z")
> [@TelevisionAU](#): > > is there that much difference between 1170 and 1269 in terms of signal? yep a little bit - when driving through the lower parts of Newcastle 1170 is stronger than 1269 I also find it more reliable on the Central Coast. ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/591 "2018-11-10T23:56:26Z")
Yes, none of the Sydney commercial AM signals are great up here, 2GB is probably the best of them. ---
**Author:** ![radioengineer](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a88e4f/32.png) [@radioengineer](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/radioengineer)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/592 "2018-11-11T02:28:57Z")
> [@gordo92](#): > > My guess would be that 2GB and 2UE have the modulation set higher then 2CH and 2SM hence why they seem they get out better yeah nah… there A LOT of factors at play here. but the main factor would be the sites antennas efficiency favour 873 and 954 respectively ---
**Author:** ![anon71206228](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9a140/32.png) [@anon71206228](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/anon71206228)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/593 "2018-11-11T09:42:54Z")
> [@radioengineer](#): > > yeah nah… there A LOT of factors at play here. > > but the main factor would be the sites antennas efficiency favour 873 and 954 respectively I wouldn’t be too sure on that. 2UE (954) is on 2SM’s mast, 2UE came to that mast in 1998-9, it was built for 2SM on 1269 in the early 1980’s I think, so it’d be peak efficiency for 2SM. 2GB (873) moved onto the 2KY (1017) mast along with 2CH (1170) almost 2 years ago, modifications were done to accommodate the 2 new services, but 2GB (873) got a 1kW TX power increase to overcome the mast height (electrical wavelength) deficiency. ---
**Author:** ![radioengineer](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a88e4f/32.png) [@radioengineer](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/radioengineer)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/594 "2018-11-11T10:11:59Z")
> [@anon71206228](#): > > so it’d be peak efficiency for 2SM. how do you know that?? have you worked on that site? ---
**Author:** ![anon71206228](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9a140/32.png) [@anon71206228](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/anon71206228)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/595 "2018-11-11T20:39:09Z")
No not that one, have you, cause I’m happy to be corrected? It’d be a compromised efficiency I’d imagine on that site, I doubt 2SM would’ve allowed a newcomer to their mast to have peak efficiency over them, but again happy to be corrected if that’s the case? ---
**Author:** ![radioengineer](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/a88e4f/32.png) [@radioengineer](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/radioengineer)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/596 "2018-11-12T07:38:18Z")
That’s what I meant… **A LOT** of factors and some that we dont know about. I know from time with EON that the 2CH the mod levels were fine (admittedly that was a year or so) I doubt that Scott and Aaron from MML would have changed it or allow it to be wrong…(without a good reason) and that was my point to @gordo92 ---
**Author:** ![KnowItAll](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/fbc32d/32.png) [@KnowItAll](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/KnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/597 "2018-11-12T09:16:06Z")
Well I live in Sydney and I can hear all the AM stations just fine. Given they’re licensed for Sydney I’d guess their transmission facilities are optimized to satisfy that. If people in Newcastle and elsewhere can’t hear Sydney stations well, then boo hoo they’re not supposed to. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/radiohead/32/21429_2.png) [@Radiohead](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/Radiohead)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/598 "2018-11-12T11:38:26Z")
Streaming (and for me, DAB) works just fine up this way too. Though we’re not really “meant to” hear them either. ---
**Author:** ![gordo92](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gordo92](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/gordo92)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/599 "2018-11-12T23:48:45Z")
> [@radioengineer](#): > > I doubt that Scott and Aaron from MML would have changed it or allow it to be wrong…(without a good reason) and that was my point to @gordo92 was just stating what i thought might be a factor, I have NEVER been to the 2GB site either… I only made a suggestion… and i might have been wrong for once by hey it happens in life ---
**Author:** ![TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@TV-Expert](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/TV-Expert)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/600 "2018-11-13T22:45:16Z")
> **[Back by popular demand: Bob Rogers will continue on Saturday Nights at 2CH](http://radiotoday.com.au/back-by-popular-demand-bob-rogers-will-continue-on-saturday-nights-at-2ch/)** > > An outburst of public support convinced the host not to retire completely. ---
**Author:** ![littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/user_avatar/forums.mediaspy.org/littlegezzybear/32/219836_2.png) [@littlegezzybear](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/littlegezzybear)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/601 "2018-11-15T13:08:51Z")
The Oceania Capital half year financial report shows that the financial performance of 2CH is improving. Revenue is up, and the loss isn’t as bad as last year. > [@](#): > > During the half-year 2CH delivered an operating loss before interest, tax and depreciation of $0.8 million (2017: $1.3 million loss) and revenue of $1.2 million (2017: $0.8 million). > > Having acquired Radio 2CH 1170am in January 2017, considerable progress has been made in reinvigorating 2CH’s on-air position as a music and entertainment product focussed on the over 50’s demographic. The station retains a relationship with MML as a result of shared broadcast facility arrangements. Full report PDF here: [https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02048428](https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02048428) ---
**Author:** ![CartBoy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@CartBoy](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/CartBoy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/602 "2018-11-16T06:45:19Z")
Yes but if that continues its still a loss of $1.6 million pa …which I agree is better than the $2.3 million loss in the previous year. But the station now owes them a lot more than they paid for it. ---
**Author:** ![crankymedia](https://forums.mediaspy.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/35a633/32.png) [@crankymedia](https://forums.mediaspy.org/u/crankymedia)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123/603 "2018-11-16T15:41:27Z")
> [@TVHead](#): > > God how badly edited are his breaks?? It sounds like he doesn’t take a breath, they just remove any and all gaps. I just don’t get it. A bunch of disconnected sentences jammed together. Is there any thought process going on at 2CH? [http://www.2ch.com.au/entertainment/2chs-bob-rogers-hangs-up-the-headphones/?fbclid=IwAR2fK4C9jnsuIc8z-mon9w4gJLSKzHhjmQ1AJRKr6jl-YKO8XPzr2wa18wg](http://www.2ch.com.au/entertainment/2chs-bob-rogers-hangs-up-the-headphones/?fbclid=IwAR2fK4C9jnsuIc8z-mon9w4gJLSKzHhjmQ1AJRKr6jl-YKO8XPzr2wa18wg) > [@dxnerd](#): > > So it looks like Lawsie wins this one. Was there any mention by Laws? What day was this announced? 2SM has been uploading all recent shows. > [@TelevisionAU](#): > > is there that much difference between 1170 and 1269 in terms of signal? 2SM I feel sounds better further away from the site in Sydney. Perhaps it’s perception only? All similar or adjacent TX sites, so wouldn’t be much. @littlegezzybear is right. GB is strong in Goulburn. I know of a local there who has a radio of older decades and receives reliable reception. With the same or adjacent sites, you’d think lower freq stations should get out better if not co-channeled at night. > [@littlegezzybear](#): > > During the half-year 2CH delivered an operating loss before interest, tax and depreciation of $0.8 million (2017: $1.3 million loss) and revenue of $1.2 million (2017: $0.8 million). So they’re on a path of improvement, incrementally as it is. There’s plenty more revenue to be written it shows. 2CH was neglected by Singo, no response to the introduction of Smooth, plenty of work still to be done. Plenty of now great and formerly great stations began new eras with a slow climb upwards. [Previous page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.mediaspy.org/t/2ch-sydney/123.md?page=31)